diff --git a/apps/ios/Shared/Model/AppAPITypes.swift b/apps/ios/Shared/Model/AppAPITypes.swift
index 5031592f02..855f3380cc 100644
--- a/apps/ios/Shared/Model/AppAPITypes.swift
+++ b/apps/ios/Shared/Model/AppAPITypes.swift
@@ -109,6 +109,7 @@ enum ChatCommand: ChatCmdProtocol {
     case reconnectServer(userId: Int64, smpServer: String)
     case apiSetChatSettings(type: ChatType, id: Int64, chatSettings: ChatSettings)
     case apiSetMemberSettings(groupId: Int64, groupMemberId: Int64, memberSettings: GroupMemberSettings)
+    case apiGetUpdatedGroupLinkData(groupId: Int64)
     case apiContactInfo(contactId: Int64)
     case apiGroupMemberInfo(groupId: Int64, groupMemberId: Int64)
     case apiContactQueueInfo(contactId: Int64)
@@ -306,6 +307,7 @@ enum ChatCommand: ChatCmdProtocol {
             case let .reconnectServer(userId, smpServer): return "/reconnect \(userId) \(smpServer)"
             case let .apiSetChatSettings(type, id, chatSettings): return "/_settings \(ref(type, id, scope: nil)) \(encodeJSON(chatSettings))"
             case let .apiSetMemberSettings(groupId, groupMemberId, memberSettings): return "/_member settings #\(groupId) \(groupMemberId) \(encodeJSON(memberSettings))"
+            case let .apiGetUpdatedGroupLinkData(groupId): return "/_get group link data #\(groupId)"
             case let .apiContactInfo(contactId): return "/_info @\(contactId)"
             case let .apiGroupMemberInfo(groupId, groupMemberId): return "/_info #\(groupId) \(groupMemberId)"
             case let .apiContactQueueInfo(contactId): return "/_queue info @\(contactId)"
@@ -494,6 +496,7 @@ enum ChatCommand: ChatCmdProtocol {
             case .reconnectServer: return "reconnectServer"
             case .apiSetChatSettings: return "apiSetChatSettings"
             case .apiSetMemberSettings: return "apiSetMemberSettings"
+            case .apiGetUpdatedGroupLinkData: return "apiGetUpdatedGroupLinkData"
             case .apiContactInfo: return "apiContactInfo"
             case .apiGroupMemberInfo: return "apiGroupMemberInfo"
             case .apiContactQueueInfo: return "apiContactQueueInfo"
@@ -673,6 +676,7 @@ enum ChatResponse0: Decodable, ChatAPIResult {
     case chatItemTTL(user: UserRef, chatItemTTL: Int64?)
     case networkConfig(networkConfig: NetCfg)
     case contactInfo(user: UserRef, contact: Contact, connectionStats_: ConnectionStats?, customUserProfile: Profile?)
+    case groupInfo(user: UserRef, groupInfo: GroupInfo)
     case groupMemberInfo(user: UserRef, groupInfo: GroupInfo, member: GroupMember, connectionStats_: ConnectionStats?)
     case queueInfo(user: UserRef, rcvMsgInfo: RcvMsgInfo?, queueInfo: ServerQueueInfo)
     case contactSwitchStarted(user: UserRef, contact: Contact, connectionStats: ConnectionStats)
@@ -706,6 +710,7 @@ enum ChatResponse0: Decodable, ChatAPIResult {
         case .chatItemTTL: "chatItemTTL"
         case .networkConfig: "networkConfig"
         case .contactInfo: "contactInfo"
+        case .groupInfo: "groupInfo"
         case .groupMemberInfo: "groupMemberInfo"
         case .queueInfo: "queueInfo"
         case .contactSwitchStarted: "contactSwitchStarted"
@@ -741,6 +746,7 @@ enum ChatResponse0: Decodable, ChatAPIResult {
         case let .chatItemTTL(u, chatItemTTL): return withUser(u, String(describing: chatItemTTL))
         case let .networkConfig(networkConfig): return String(describing: networkConfig)
         case let .contactInfo(u, contact, connectionStats_, customUserProfile): return withUser(u, "contact: \(String(describing: contact))\nconnectionStats_: \(String(describing: connectionStats_))\ncustomUserProfile: \(String(describing: customUserProfile))")
+        case let .groupInfo(u, groupInfo): return withUser(u, "groupInfo: \(String(describing: groupInfo))")
         case let .groupMemberInfo(u, groupInfo, member, connectionStats_): return withUser(u, "groupInfo: \(String(describing: groupInfo))\nmember: \(String(describing: member))\nconnectionStats_: \(String(describing: connectionStats_))")
         case let .queueInfo(u, rcvMsgInfo, queueInfo):
             let msgInfo = if let info = rcvMsgInfo { encodeJSON(info) } else { "none" }
@@ -1104,7 +1110,7 @@ enum ChatEvent: Decodable, ChatAPIResult {
     case joinedGroupMember(user: UserRef, groupInfo: GroupInfo, member: GroupMember)
     case connectedToGroupMember(user: UserRef, groupInfo: GroupInfo, member: GroupMember, memberContact: Contact?)
     case groupUpdated(user: UserRef, toGroup: GroupInfo)
-    case groupLinkRelaysUpdated(user: UserRef, groupInfo: GroupInfo, groupLink: GroupLink, groupRelays: [GroupRelay])
+    case groupLinkDataUpdated(user: UserRef, groupInfo: GroupInfo, groupLink: GroupLink, groupRelays: [GroupRelay], relaysChanged: Bool)
     case newMemberContactReceivedInv(user: UserRef, contact: Contact, groupInfo: GroupInfo, member: GroupMember)
     // receiving file events
     case rcvFileAccepted(user: UserRef, chatItem: AChatItem)
@@ -1181,7 +1187,7 @@ enum ChatEvent: Decodable, ChatAPIResult {
         case .joinedGroupMember: "joinedGroupMember"
         case .connectedToGroupMember: "connectedToGroupMember"
         case .groupUpdated: "groupUpdated"
-        case .groupLinkRelaysUpdated: "groupLinkRelaysUpdated"
+        case .groupLinkDataUpdated: "groupLinkDataUpdated"
         case .newMemberContactReceivedInv: "newMemberContactReceivedInv"
         case .rcvFileAccepted: "rcvFileAccepted"
         case .rcvFileAcceptedSndCancelled: "rcvFileAcceptedSndCancelled"
@@ -1262,7 +1268,7 @@ enum ChatEvent: Decodable, ChatAPIResult {
         case let .joinedGroupMember(u, groupInfo, member): return withUser(u, "groupInfo: \(groupInfo)\nmember: \(member)")
         case let .connectedToGroupMember(u, groupInfo, member, memberContact): return withUser(u, "groupInfo: \(groupInfo)\nmember: \(member)\nmemberContact: \(String(describing: memberContact))")
         case let .groupUpdated(u, toGroup): return withUser(u, String(describing: toGroup))
-        case let .groupLinkRelaysUpdated(u, groupInfo, groupLink, groupRelays): return withUser(u, "groupInfo: \(groupInfo)\ngroupLink: \(groupLink)\ngroupRelays: \(groupRelays)")
+        case let .groupLinkDataUpdated(u, groupInfo, groupLink, groupRelays, relaysChanged): return withUser(u, "groupInfo: \(groupInfo)\ngroupLink: \(groupLink)\ngroupRelays: \(groupRelays)\nrelaysChanged: \(relaysChanged)")
         case let .newMemberContactReceivedInv(u, contact, groupInfo, member): return withUser(u, "contact: \(contact)\ngroupInfo: \(groupInfo)\nmember: \(member)")
         case let .rcvFileAccepted(u, chatItem): return withUser(u, String(describing: chatItem))
         case .rcvFileAcceptedSndCancelled: return noDetails
diff --git a/apps/ios/Shared/Model/SimpleXAPI.swift b/apps/ios/Shared/Model/SimpleXAPI.swift
index 0819d74ec1..1119f28bac 100644
--- a/apps/ios/Shared/Model/SimpleXAPI.swift
+++ b/apps/ios/Shared/Model/SimpleXAPI.swift
@@ -890,6 +890,12 @@ func apiSetMemberSettings(_ groupId: Int64, _ groupMemberId: Int64, _ memberSett
     try await sendCommandOkResp(.apiSetMemberSettings(groupId: groupId, groupMemberId: groupMemberId, memberSettings: memberSettings))
 }
 
+func apiGetUpdatedGroupLinkData(_ groupId: Int64) async -> GroupInfo? {
+    let r: APIResult<ChatResponse0> = await chatApiSendCmd(.apiGetUpdatedGroupLinkData(groupId: groupId))
+    if case let .result(.groupInfo(_, groupInfo)) = r { return groupInfo }
+    return nil
+}
+
 func apiContactInfo(_ contactId: Int64) async throws -> (ConnectionStats?, Profile?) {
     let r: ChatResponse0 = try await chatSendCmd(.apiContactInfo(contactId: contactId))
     if case let .contactInfo(_, _, connStats, customUserProfile) = r { return (connStats, customUserProfile) }
@@ -2578,7 +2584,7 @@ func processReceivedMsg(_ res: ChatEvent) async {
                 m.updateGroup(toGroup)
             }
         }
-    case let .groupLinkRelaysUpdated(user, groupInfo, _, groupRelays):
+    case let .groupLinkDataUpdated(user, groupInfo, _, groupRelays, _):
         if active(user) {
             await MainActor.run {
                 m.updateGroup(groupInfo)
diff --git a/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/ChatInfoToolbar.swift b/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/ChatInfoToolbar.swift
index 37f3b982a1..e158b9374f 100644
--- a/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/ChatInfoToolbar.swift
+++ b/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/ChatInfoToolbar.swift
@@ -57,6 +57,18 @@ struct ChatInfoToolbar: View {
                             .padding(.top, -2)
                     }
                 }
+                .if (channelSubscriberCount != nil) { v in
+                    VStack(spacing: 0) {
+                        v
+                        if let count = channelSubscriberCount {
+                            Text(subscriberCountStr(count))
+                                .font(.caption)
+                                .foregroundColor(theme.colors.secondary)
+                                .lineLimit(1)
+                                .padding(.top, -2)
+                        }
+                    }
+                }
             if let contact = chat.chatInfo.contact,
                contact.ready && contact.active,
                let chatSubStatus = m.chatSubStatus,
@@ -69,6 +81,17 @@ struct ChatInfoToolbar: View {
         .frame(width: 220)
     }
 
+    private var channelSubscriberCount: Int64? {
+        if case let .group(groupInfo, _) = chat.chatInfo,
+           groupInfo.useRelays,
+           let count = groupInfo.groupSummary.publicMemberCount,
+           count > 0 {
+            count
+        } else {
+            nil
+        }
+    }
+
     private var contactVerifiedShield: Text {
         (Text(Image(systemName: "checkmark.shield")) + textSpace)
             .font(.caption)
@@ -102,6 +125,12 @@ struct ChatInfoToolbar: View {
     }
 }
 
+public func subscriberCountStr(_ count: Int64) -> String {
+    count == 1
+        ? String.localizedStringWithFormat(NSLocalizedString("%d subscriber", comment: "channel subscriber count"), count)
+        : String.localizedStringWithFormat(NSLocalizedString("%d subscribers", comment: "channel subscriber count"), count)
+}
+
 struct ChatInfoToolbar_Previews: PreviewProvider {
     static var previews: some View {
         ChatInfoToolbar(chat: Chat(chatInfo: ChatInfo.sampleData.direct, chatItems: []))
diff --git a/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/ChatView.swift b/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/ChatView.swift
index 87f6b8a787..3301f96792 100644
--- a/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/ChatView.swift
+++ b/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/ChatView.swift
@@ -695,6 +695,14 @@ struct ChatView: View {
                             ChannelRelaysModel.shared.set(groupId: groupInfo.groupId, groupRelays: relays)
                         }
                     }
+                } else {
+                    Task {
+                        if let gInfo = await apiGetUpdatedGroupLinkData(groupInfo.groupId) {
+                            await MainActor.run {
+                                chatModel.updateGroup(gInfo)
+                            }
+                        }
+                    }
                 }
             }
             updateAvailableContent()
diff --git a/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/ComposeMessage/ComposeView.swift b/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/ComposeMessage/ComposeView.swift
index 271e50c8d7..f37eb614b9 100644
--- a/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/ComposeMessage/ComposeView.swift
+++ b/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/ComposeMessage/ComposeView.swift
@@ -382,7 +382,8 @@ struct ComposeView: View {
                 Divider()
             }
 
-            if let gInfo = chat.chatInfo.groupInfo, gInfo.useRelays {
+            if let gInfo = chat.chatInfo.groupInfo, gInfo.useRelays,
+               ![.memRejected, .memLeft, .memRemoved, .memGroupDeleted].contains(gInfo.membership.memberStatus) {
                 if gInfo.membership.memberRole == .owner {
                     let relays = channelRelaysModel.groupId == gInfo.groupId
                         ? channelRelaysModel.groupRelays : []
diff --git a/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/Group/ChannelMembersView.swift b/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/Group/ChannelMembersView.swift
index b3317cbc6b..abcadc6c3f 100644
--- a/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/Group/ChannelMembersView.swift
+++ b/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/Group/ChannelMembersView.swift
@@ -16,39 +16,34 @@ struct ChannelMembersView: View {
     @EnvironmentObject var theme: AppTheme
 
     var body: some View {
-        let allMembers = chatModel.groupMembers
+        let members = chatModel.groupMembers
             .filter { m in
                 let s = m.wrapped.memberStatus
-                return s != .memLeft && s != .memRemoved && m.wrapped.groupMemberId != groupInfo.membership.groupMemberId
+                return s != .memLeft && s != .memRemoved && m.wrapped.memberRole != .relay
             }
-        let owners = allMembers.filter { $0.wrapped.memberRole >= .owner }
-        // TODO [relays] subscriber/owner counts require backend support for accurate totals
-        let subscribers = allMembers.filter { $0.wrapped.memberRole < .owner && $0.wrapped.memberRole != .relay }
-        List {
-            Section(header: Text("Owners").foregroundColor(theme.colors.secondary)) {
-                if groupInfo.membership.memberRole >= .owner {
-                    memberRow(GMember(groupInfo.membership), user: true)
-                }
-                ForEach(owners) { member in
-                    memberRow(member, user: false)
+        if groupInfo.isOwner {
+            let subscriberCount = groupInfo.groupSummary.publicMemberCount ?? Int64(members.count + 1)
+            List {
+                Section(header: Text(subscriberCountStr(subscriberCount)).foregroundColor(theme.colors.secondary)) {
+                    memberRow(GMember(groupInfo.membership), user: true, showRole: true)
+                    ForEach(members) { member in
+                        memberRow(member, user: false, showRole: member.wrapped.memberRole >= .owner)
+                    }
                 }
             }
-            if groupInfo.isOwner {
-                Section(header: Text("\(subscribers.count) subscribers").foregroundColor(theme.colors.secondary)) {
-                    if subscribers.isEmpty {
-                        Text("No subscribers")
-                            .foregroundColor(theme.colors.secondary)
-                    } else {
-                        ForEach(subscribers) { member in
-                            memberRow(member, user: false)
-                        }
+        } else {
+            let owners = members.filter { $0.wrapped.memberRole >= .owner }
+            List {
+                Section(header: Text("Owners").foregroundColor(theme.colors.secondary)) {
+                    ForEach(owners) { member in
+                        memberRow(member, user: false, showRole: false)
                     }
                 }
             }
         }
     }
 
-    @ViewBuilder private func memberRow(_ gMember: GMember, user: Bool) -> some View {
+    @ViewBuilder private func memberRow(_ gMember: GMember, user: Bool, showRole: Bool) -> some View {
         let member = gMember.wrapped
         let nameText = Text(member.chatViewName)
             .foregroundColor(member.memberIncognito ? .indigo : theme.colors.onBackground)
@@ -60,9 +55,20 @@ struct ChannelMembersView: View {
         let row = HStack {
             MemberProfileImage(member, size: 38)
                 .padding(.trailing, 2)
-            displayName
-                .lineLimit(1)
+            VStack(alignment: .leading) {
+                displayName
+                    .lineLimit(1)
+                if user {
+                    Text("you")
+                        .font(.caption)
+                        .foregroundColor(theme.colors.secondary)
+                }
+            }
             Spacer()
+            if showRole {
+                Text(member.memberRole.text)
+                    .foregroundColor(theme.colors.secondary)
+            }
         }
         if user {
             row
diff --git a/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/Group/GroupChatInfoView.swift b/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/Group/GroupChatInfoView.swift
index d02cf2eb38..134ecffbb3 100644
--- a/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/Group/GroupChatInfoView.swift
+++ b/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Chat/Group/GroupChatInfoView.swift
@@ -297,6 +297,14 @@ struct GroupChatInfoView: View {
                     .lineLimit(4)
                     .fixedSize(horizontal: false, vertical: true)
             }
+            if groupInfo.useRelays,
+               let count = groupInfo.groupSummary.publicMemberCount,
+               count > 0 {
+                Text(subscriberCountStr(count))
+                    .font(.subheadline)
+                    .foregroundColor(theme.colors.secondary)
+                    .padding(.bottom, 2)
+            }
         }
         .frame(maxWidth: .infinity, alignment: .center)
     }
@@ -627,7 +635,7 @@ struct GroupChatInfoView: View {
     }
 
     private func channelMembersButton() -> some View {
-        let label: LocalizedStringKey = groupInfo.isOwner ? "Owners & subscribers" : "Owners"
+        let label: LocalizedStringKey = groupInfo.isOwner ? "Subscribers" : "Owners"
         return NavigationLink {
             ChannelMembersView(chat: chat, groupInfo: groupInfo)
                 .navigationTitle(label)
diff --git a/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Helpers/ShareSheet.swift b/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Helpers/ShareSheet.swift
index 86a5dc7aaa..2ef928c7c5 100644
--- a/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Helpers/ShareSheet.swift
+++ b/apps/ios/Shared/Views/Helpers/ShareSheet.swift
@@ -100,6 +100,7 @@ class OpenChatAlertViewController: UIViewController {
     private let profileName: String
     private let profileFullName: String
     private let profileImage: UIView
+    private let subtitle: String?
     private let cancelTitle: String
     private let confirmTitle: String
     private let onCancel: () -> Void
@@ -109,6 +110,7 @@ class OpenChatAlertViewController: UIViewController {
         profileName: String,
         profileFullName: String,
         profileImage: UIView,
+        subtitle: String? = nil,
         cancelTitle: String = "Cancel",
         confirmTitle: String = "Open",
         onCancel: @escaping () -> Void,
@@ -117,6 +119,7 @@ class OpenChatAlertViewController: UIViewController {
         self.profileName = profileName
         self.profileFullName = profileFullName
         self.profileImage = profileImage
+        self.subtitle = subtitle
         self.cancelTitle = cancelTitle
         self.confirmTitle = confirmTitle
         self.onCancel = onCancel
@@ -171,6 +174,18 @@ class OpenChatAlertViewController: UIViewController {
             profileViews.append(fullNameLabel)
         }
 
+        // Subtitle label (e.g. subscriber count)
+        if let subtitle {
+            let subtitleLabel = UILabel()
+            subtitleLabel.text = subtitle
+            subtitleLabel.font = UIFont.preferredFont(forTextStyle: .footnote)
+            subtitleLabel.textColor = .secondaryLabel
+            subtitleLabel.numberOfLines = 1
+            subtitleLabel.textAlignment = .center
+            subtitleLabel.translatesAutoresizingMaskIntoConstraints = false
+            profileViews.append(subtitleLabel)
+        }
+
         // Horizontal stack for image + name
         let stack = UIStackView(arrangedSubviews: profileViews)
         stack.axis = .vertical
@@ -291,6 +306,7 @@ func showOpenChatAlert<Content: View>(
     profileFullName: String,
     profileImage: Content,
     theme: AppTheme,
+    subtitle: String? = nil,
     cancelTitle: String = "Cancel",
     confirmTitle: String = "Open",
     onCancel: @escaping () -> Void = {},
@@ -306,6 +322,7 @@ func showOpenChatAlert<Content: View>(
             profileName: profileName,
             profileFullName: profileFullName,
             profileImage: hostedView,
+            subtitle: subtitle,
             cancelTitle: cancelTitle,
             confirmTitle: confirmTitle,
             onCancel: onCancel,
diff --git a/apps/ios/Shared/Views/NewChat/NewChatView.swift b/apps/ios/Shared/Views/NewChat/NewChatView.swift
index 95f7fa2e9d..63fb7f5221 100644
--- a/apps/ios/Shared/Views/NewChat/NewChatView.swift
+++ b/apps/ios/Shared/Views/NewChat/NewChatView.swift
@@ -1106,6 +1106,7 @@ private func showPrepareGroupAlert(
     cleanup: (() -> Void)?
 ) {
     let isChannel = !(groupShortLinkInfo?.direct ?? true)
+    let subscriberCount = groupShortLinkData.publicGroupData.map { "\($0.publicMemberCount) subscribers" }
     showOpenChatAlert(
         profileName: groupShortLinkData.groupProfile.displayName,
         profileFullName: groupShortLinkData.groupProfile.fullName,
@@ -1118,6 +1119,7 @@ private func showPrepareGroupAlert(
                 size: alertProfileImageSize
             ),
         theme: theme,
+        subtitle: isChannel ? subscriberCount : nil,
         cancelTitle: NSLocalizedString("Cancel", comment: "new chat action"),
         confirmTitle: isChannel
             ? NSLocalizedString("Open new channel", comment: "new chat action")
@@ -1178,6 +1180,7 @@ private func showOpenKnownGroupAlert(
     theme: AppTheme,
     dismiss: Bool
 ) {
+    let subscriberCount = groupInfo.groupSummary.publicMemberCount.map { "\($0) subscribers" }
     showOpenChatAlert(
         profileName: groupInfo.groupProfile.displayName,
         profileFullName: groupInfo.groupProfile.fullName,
@@ -1188,6 +1191,7 @@ private func showOpenKnownGroupAlert(
                 size: alertProfileImageSize
             ),
         theme: theme,
+        subtitle: groupInfo.useRelays ? subscriberCount : nil,
         cancelTitle: NSLocalizedString("Cancel", comment: "new chat action"),
         confirmTitle:
             groupInfo.useRelays
diff --git a/apps/ios/SimpleXChat/ChatTypes.swift b/apps/ios/SimpleXChat/ChatTypes.swift
index 468ede7031..cfa66218b3 100644
--- a/apps/ios/SimpleXChat/ChatTypes.swift
+++ b/apps/ios/SimpleXChat/ChatTypes.swift
@@ -2360,6 +2360,7 @@ public struct GroupInfo: Identifiable, Decodable, NamedChat, Hashable {
     var chatTs: Date?
     public var preparedGroup: PreparedGroup?
     public var uiThemes: ThemeModeOverrides?
+    public var groupSummary: GroupSummary
     public var membersRequireAttention: Int
 
     public var id: ChatId { get { "#\(groupId)" } }
@@ -2413,6 +2414,7 @@ public struct GroupInfo: Identifiable, Decodable, NamedChat, Hashable {
         chatSettings: ChatSettings.defaults,
         createdAt: .now,
         updatedAt: .now,
+        groupSummary: GroupSummary(currentMembers: 0),
         membersRequireAttention: 0,
         chatTags: [],
         localAlias: ""
@@ -2506,8 +2508,23 @@ public struct ContactShortLinkData: Codable, Hashable {
     public var business: Bool
 }
 
+public struct GroupSummary: Decodable, Hashable {
+    public var currentMembers: Int64
+    public var publicMemberCount: Int64?
+
+    public init(currentMembers: Int64 = 0, publicMemberCount: Int64? = nil) {
+        self.currentMembers = currentMembers
+        self.publicMemberCount = publicMemberCount
+    }
+}
+
+public struct PublicGroupData: Codable, Hashable {
+    public var publicMemberCount: Int64
+}
+
 public struct GroupShortLinkData: Codable, Hashable {
     public var groupProfile: GroupProfile
+    public var publicGroupData: PublicGroupData?
 }
 
 public enum RelayStatus: String, Decodable, Equatable, Hashable {
diff --git a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/model/ChatModel.kt b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/model/ChatModel.kt
index 1c25d7e3d4..17fcf1c4b7 100644
--- a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/model/ChatModel.kt
+++ b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/model/ChatModel.kt
@@ -2058,6 +2058,7 @@ data class GroupInfo (
   val chatTs: Instant?,
   val preparedGroup: PreparedGroup?,
   val uiThemes: ThemeModeOverrides? = null,
+  val groupSummary: GroupSummary,
   val membersRequireAttention: Int,
   val chatTags: List<Long>,
   val chatItemTTL: Long?,
@@ -2136,6 +2137,7 @@ data class GroupInfo (
       chatTs = Clock.System.now(),
       preparedGroup = null,
       uiThemes = null,
+      groupSummary = GroupSummary(currentMembers = 0),
       membersRequireAttention = 0,
       chatTags = emptyList(),
       localAlias = "",
@@ -2203,9 +2205,21 @@ data class ContactShortLinkData (
   val business: Boolean
 )
 
+@Serializable
+data class GroupSummary (
+  val currentMembers: Long,
+  val publicMemberCount: Long? = null
+)
+
+@Serializable
+data class PublicGroupData (
+  val publicMemberCount: Long
+)
+
 @Serializable
 data class GroupShortLinkData (
-  val groupProfile: GroupProfile
+  val groupProfile: GroupProfile,
+  val publicGroupData: PublicGroupData? = null
 )
 
 @Serializable
diff --git a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/model/SimpleXAPI.kt b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/model/SimpleXAPI.kt
index df479e77c8..723e7bdc25 100644
--- a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/model/SimpleXAPI.kt
+++ b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/model/SimpleXAPI.kt
@@ -1343,6 +1343,12 @@ object ChatController {
   suspend fun apiSetMemberSettings(rh: Long?, groupId: Long, groupMemberId: Long, memberSettings: GroupMemberSettings): Boolean =
     sendCommandOkResp(rh, CC.ApiSetMemberSettings(groupId, groupMemberId, memberSettings))
 
+  suspend fun apiGetUpdatedGroupLinkData(rh: Long?, groupId: Long): GroupInfo? {
+    val r = sendCmd(rh, CC.ApiGetUpdatedGroupLinkData(groupId))
+    if (r is API.Result && r.res is CR.CRGroupInfo) return r.res.groupInfo
+    return null
+  }
+
   suspend fun apiContactInfo(rh: Long?, contactId: Long): Pair<ConnectionStats?, Profile?>? {
     val r = sendCmd(rh, CC.APIContactInfo(contactId))
     if (r is API.Result && r.res is CR.ContactInfo) return r.res.connectionStats_ to r.res.customUserProfile
@@ -2977,7 +2983,7 @@ object ChatController {
             chatModel.chatsContext.updateGroup(rhId, r.toGroup)
           }
         }
-      is CR.GroupLinkRelaysUpdated ->
+      is CR.GroupLinkDataUpdated ->
         if (active(r.user)) {
           withContext(Dispatchers.Main) {
             chatModel.chatsContext.updateGroup(rhId, r.groupInfo)
@@ -3642,6 +3648,7 @@ sealed class CC {
   class ReconnectAllServers: CC()
   class APISetChatSettings(val type: ChatType, val id: Long, val chatSettings: ChatSettings): CC()
   class ApiSetMemberSettings(val groupId: Long, val groupMemberId: Long, val memberSettings: GroupMemberSettings): CC()
+  class ApiGetUpdatedGroupLinkData(val groupId: Long): CC()
   class APIContactInfo(val contactId: Long): CC()
   class APIGroupMemberInfo(val groupId: Long, val groupMemberId: Long): CC()
   class APIContactQueueInfo(val contactId: Long): CC()
@@ -3841,6 +3848,7 @@ sealed class CC {
     is ReconnectAllServers -> "/reconnect"
     is APISetChatSettings -> "/_settings ${chatRef(type, id, scope = null)} ${json.encodeToString(chatSettings)}"
     is ApiSetMemberSettings -> "/_member settings #$groupId $groupMemberId ${json.encodeToString(memberSettings)}"
+    is ApiGetUpdatedGroupLinkData -> "/_get group link data #$groupId"
     is APIContactInfo -> "/_info @$contactId"
     is APIGroupMemberInfo -> "/_info #$groupId $groupMemberId"
     is APIContactQueueInfo -> "/_queue info @$contactId"
@@ -4018,6 +4026,7 @@ sealed class CC {
     is ReconnectAllServers -> "reconnectAllServers"
     is APISetChatSettings -> "apiSetChatSettings"
     is ApiSetMemberSettings -> "apiSetMemberSettings"
+    is ApiGetUpdatedGroupLinkData -> "apiGetUpdatedGroupLinkData"
     is APIContactInfo -> "apiContactInfo"
     is APIGroupMemberInfo -> "apiGroupMemberInfo"
     is APIContactQueueInfo -> "apiContactQueueInfo"
@@ -6197,6 +6206,7 @@ sealed class CR {
   @Serializable @SerialName("chatItemTTL") class ChatItemTTL(val user: UserRef, val chatItemTTL: Long? = null): CR()
   @Serializable @SerialName("networkConfig") class NetworkConfig(val networkConfig: NetCfg): CR()
   @Serializable @SerialName("contactInfo") class ContactInfo(val user: UserRef, val contact: Contact, val connectionStats_: ConnectionStats? = null, val customUserProfile: Profile? = null): CR()
+  @Serializable @SerialName("groupInfo") class CRGroupInfo(val user: UserRef, val groupInfo: GroupInfo): CR()
   @Serializable @SerialName("groupMemberInfo") class GroupMemberInfo(val user: UserRef, val groupInfo: GroupInfo, val member: GroupMember, val connectionStats_: ConnectionStats? = null): CR()
   @Serializable @SerialName("queueInfo") class QueueInfoR(val user: UserRef, val rcvMsgInfo: RcvMsgInfo?, val queueInfo: ServerQueueInfo): CR()
   @Serializable @SerialName("contactSwitchStarted") class ContactSwitchStarted(val user: UserRef, val contact: Contact, val connectionStats: ConnectionStats): CR()
@@ -6290,7 +6300,7 @@ sealed class CR {
   @Serializable @SerialName("joinedGroupMember") class JoinedGroupMember(val user: UserRef, val groupInfo: GroupInfo, val member: GroupMember): CR()
   @Serializable @SerialName("connectedToGroupMember") class ConnectedToGroupMember(val user: UserRef, val groupInfo: GroupInfo, val member: GroupMember, val memberContact: Contact? = null): CR()
   @Serializable @SerialName("groupUpdated") class GroupUpdated(val user: UserRef, val toGroup: GroupInfo): CR()
-  @Serializable @SerialName("groupLinkRelaysUpdated") class GroupLinkRelaysUpdated(val user: UserRef, val groupInfo: GroupInfo, val groupLink: GroupLink, val groupRelays: List<GroupRelay>): CR()
+  @Serializable @SerialName("groupLinkDataUpdated") class GroupLinkDataUpdated(val user: UserRef, val groupInfo: GroupInfo, val groupLink: GroupLink, val groupRelays: List<GroupRelay>, val relaysChanged: Boolean): CR()
   @Serializable @SerialName("groupLinkCreated") class GroupLinkCreated(val user: UserRef, val groupInfo: GroupInfo, val groupLink: GroupLink): CR()
   @Serializable @SerialName("groupLink") class CRGroupLink(val user: UserRef, val groupInfo: GroupInfo, val groupLink: GroupLink): CR()
   @Serializable @SerialName("groupLinkDeleted") class GroupLinkDeleted(val user: UserRef, val groupInfo: GroupInfo): CR()
@@ -6382,6 +6392,7 @@ sealed class CR {
     is ChatItemTTL -> "chatItemTTL"
     is NetworkConfig -> "networkConfig"
     is ContactInfo -> "contactInfo"
+    is CRGroupInfo -> "groupInfo"
     is GroupMemberInfo -> "groupMemberInfo"
     is QueueInfoR -> "queueInfo"
     is ContactSwitchStarted -> "contactSwitchStarted"
@@ -6474,7 +6485,7 @@ sealed class CR {
     is JoinedGroupMember -> "joinedGroupMember"
     is ConnectedToGroupMember -> "connectedToGroupMember"
     is GroupUpdated -> "groupUpdated"
-    is GroupLinkRelaysUpdated -> "groupLinkRelaysUpdated"
+    is GroupLinkDataUpdated -> "groupLinkDataUpdated"
     is GroupLinkCreated -> "groupLinkCreated"
     is CRGroupLink -> "groupLink"
     is GroupLinkDeleted -> "groupLinkDeleted"
@@ -6559,6 +6570,7 @@ sealed class CR {
     is ChatItemTTL -> withUser(user, json.encodeToString(chatItemTTL))
     is NetworkConfig -> json.encodeToString(networkConfig)
     is ContactInfo -> withUser(user, "contact: ${json.encodeToString(contact)}\nconnectionStats: ${json.encodeToString(connectionStats_)}")
+    is CRGroupInfo -> withUser(user, "groupInfo: ${json.encodeToString(groupInfo)}")
     is GroupMemberInfo -> withUser(user, "group: ${json.encodeToString(groupInfo)}\nmember: ${json.encodeToString(member)}\nconnectionStats: ${json.encodeToString(connectionStats_)}")
     is QueueInfoR -> withUser(user, "rcvMsgInfo: ${json.encodeToString(rcvMsgInfo)}\nqueueInfo: ${json.encodeToString(queueInfo)}\n")
     is ContactSwitchStarted -> withUser(user, "contact: ${json.encodeToString(contact)}\nconnectionStats: ${json.encodeToString(connectionStats)}")
@@ -6651,7 +6663,7 @@ sealed class CR {
     is JoinedGroupMember -> withUser(user, "groupInfo: $groupInfo\nmember: $member")
     is ConnectedToGroupMember -> withUser(user, "groupInfo: $groupInfo\nmember: $member\nmemberContact: $memberContact")
     is GroupUpdated -> withUser(user, json.encodeToString(toGroup))
-    is GroupLinkRelaysUpdated -> withUser(user, "groupInfo: $groupInfo\ngroupLink: $groupLink\ngroupRelays: $groupRelays")
+    is GroupLinkDataUpdated -> withUser(user, "groupInfo: $groupInfo\ngroupLink: $groupLink\ngroupRelays: $groupRelays\nrelaysChanged: $relaysChanged")
     is GroupLinkCreated -> withUser(user, "groupInfo: $groupInfo\ngroupLink: $groupLink")
     is CRGroupLink -> withUser(user, "groupInfo: $groupInfo\ngroupLink: $groupLink")
     is GroupLinkDeleted -> withUser(user, json.encodeToString(groupInfo))
diff --git a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/ChatView.kt b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/ChatView.kt
index 18122c63a9..89bb27de02 100644
--- a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/ChatView.kt
+++ b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/ChatView.kt
@@ -209,6 +209,13 @@ fun ChatView(
                   withContext(Dispatchers.Main) {
                     ChannelRelaysModel.set(cInfo.groupInfo.groupId, relays)
                   }
+                } else {
+                  val gInfo = chatModel.controller.apiGetUpdatedGroupLinkData(chatRh, cInfo.groupInfo.groupId)
+                  if (gInfo != null) {
+                    withContext(Dispatchers.Main) {
+                      chatModel.chatsContext.updateGroup(chatRh, gInfo)
+                    }
+                  }
                 }
               }
             }
@@ -1444,6 +1451,10 @@ fun BoxScope.ChatInfoToolbar(
   }
 }
 
+fun subscriberCountStr(count: Long): String =
+  if (count == 1L) String.format(generalGetString(MR.strings.channel_subscriber_count_singular), count)
+  else String.format(generalGetString(MR.strings.channel_subscriber_count_plural), count)
+
 @Composable
 fun ChatInfoToolbarTitle(cInfo: ChatInfo, imageSize: Dp = 40.dp, iconColor: Color = MaterialTheme.colors.secondaryVariant.mixWith(MaterialTheme.colors.onBackground, 0.97f)) {
   Row(
@@ -1473,6 +1484,17 @@ fun ChatInfoToolbarTitle(cInfo: ChatInfo, imageSize: Dp = 40.dp, iconColor: Colo
           maxLines = 1, overflow = TextOverflow.Ellipsis
         )
       }
+      val channelSubscriberCount = (cInfo as? ChatInfo.Group)?.let { g ->
+        if (g.groupInfo.useRelays) g.groupInfo.groupSummary.publicMemberCount?.takeIf { it > 0 } else null
+      }
+      if (channelSubscriberCount != null) {
+        Text(
+          subscriberCountStr(channelSubscriberCount),
+          style = MaterialTheme.typography.body2,
+          color = MaterialTheme.colors.secondary,
+          maxLines = 1, overflow = TextOverflow.Ellipsis
+        )
+      }
     }
     val chatSubStatus = chatModel.chatSubStatus.value
     if (
diff --git a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/ComposeView.kt b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/ComposeView.kt
index b2b83e8dc4..10f426b152 100644
--- a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/ComposeView.kt
+++ b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/ComposeView.kt
@@ -1466,7 +1466,9 @@ fun ComposeView(
     }
 
     val gInfo = (chat.chatInfo as? ChatInfo.Group)?.groupInfo
-    if (gInfo != null && gInfo.useRelays) {
+    if (gInfo != null && gInfo.useRelays
+      && gInfo.membership.memberStatus !in listOf(GroupMemberStatus.MemRejected, GroupMemberStatus.MemLeft, GroupMemberStatus.MemRemoved, GroupMemberStatus.MemGroupDeleted)
+    ) {
       if (gInfo.membership.memberRole == GroupMemberRole.Owner) {
         val relays = if (ChannelRelaysModel.groupId.value == gInfo.groupId) ChannelRelaysModel.groupRelays.toList() else emptyList()
         val failedCount = relays.count { relayMemberConnFailed(chatModel, it) != null }
diff --git a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/group/ChannelMembersView.kt b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/group/ChannelMembersView.kt
index efa6510c95..0cf3a3c96f 100644
--- a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/group/ChannelMembersView.kt
+++ b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/group/ChannelMembersView.kt
@@ -1,7 +1,6 @@
 package chat.simplex.common.views.chat.group
 
 import SectionBottomSpacer
-import SectionDividerSpaced
 import SectionItemView
 import SectionView
 import androidx.compose.foundation.layout.*
@@ -15,6 +14,7 @@ import androidx.compose.ui.unit.dp
 import chat.simplex.common.model.*
 import chat.simplex.common.platform.*
 import chat.simplex.common.ui.theme.*
+import chat.simplex.common.views.chat.subscriberCountStr
 import chat.simplex.common.views.helpers.*
 import chat.simplex.res.MR
 
@@ -27,66 +27,51 @@ fun ChannelMembersView(
   showMemberInfo: (GroupMember) -> Unit
 ) {
   BackHandler(onBack = close)
-  val allMembers = remember { chatModel.groupMembers }.value
+  val members = remember { chatModel.groupMembers }.value
     .filter { m ->
       m.memberStatus != GroupMemberStatus.MemLeft
           && m.memberStatus != GroupMemberStatus.MemRemoved
-          && m.groupMemberId != groupInfo.membership.groupMemberId
+          && m.memberRole != GroupMemberRole.Relay
     }
-  val owners = allMembers.filter { it.memberRole >= GroupMemberRole.Owner }
-  // TODO [relays] subscriber/owner counts require backend support for accurate totals
-  val subscribers = allMembers.filter { it.memberRole < GroupMemberRole.Owner && it.memberRole != GroupMemberRole.Relay }
 
   ColumnWithScrollBar {
     val title = if (groupInfo.isOwner) {
-      generalGetString(MR.strings.channel_members_title_owners_and_subscribers)
+      generalGetString(MR.strings.channel_members_title_subscribers)
     } else {
       generalGetString(MR.strings.channel_members_section_owners)
     }
     AppBarTitle(title)
 
-    SectionView(title = generalGetString(MR.strings.channel_members_section_owners)) {
-      if (groupInfo.membership.memberRole >= GroupMemberRole.Owner) {
-        SectionItemView(minHeight = 54.dp, padding = PaddingValues(horizontal = DEFAULT_PADDING)) {
-          ChannelMemberRow(groupInfo.membership)
-        }
-      }
-      owners.forEachIndexed { index, member ->
-        if (index > 0 || groupInfo.membership.memberRole >= GroupMemberRole.Owner) {
-          Divider()
-        }
-        SectionItemView(
-          click = { showMemberInfo(member) },
-          minHeight = 54.dp,
-          padding = PaddingValues(horizontal = DEFAULT_PADDING)
-        ) {
-          ChannelMemberRow(member)
-        }
-      }
-    }
-
     if (groupInfo.isOwner) {
-      SectionDividerSpaced(maxTopPadding = true, maxBottomPadding = false)
-      SectionView(title = String.format(generalGetString(MR.strings.channel_members_num_subscribers), subscribers.size)) {
-        if (subscribers.isEmpty()) {
-          SectionItemView(padding = PaddingValues(horizontal = DEFAULT_PADDING)) {
-            Text(
-              generalGetString(MR.strings.channel_members_no_subscribers),
-              color = MaterialTheme.colors.secondary
-            )
+      val subscriberCount = groupInfo.groupSummary.publicMemberCount ?: (members.size + 1).toLong()
+      SectionView(title = subscriberCountStr(subscriberCount).uppercase()) {
+        SectionItemView(minHeight = 54.dp, padding = PaddingValues(horizontal = DEFAULT_PADDING)) {
+          ChannelMemberRow(groupInfo.membership, user = true, showRole = true)
+        }
+        members.forEachIndexed { index, member ->
+          Divider()
+          SectionItemView(
+            click = { showMemberInfo(member) },
+            minHeight = 54.dp,
+            padding = PaddingValues(horizontal = DEFAULT_PADDING)
+          ) {
+            ChannelMemberRow(member, user = false, showRole = member.memberRole >= GroupMemberRole.Owner)
           }
-        } else {
-          subscribers.forEachIndexed { index, member ->
-            if (index > 0) {
-              Divider()
-            }
-            SectionItemView(
-              click = { showMemberInfo(member) },
-              minHeight = 54.dp,
-              padding = PaddingValues(horizontal = DEFAULT_PADDING)
-            ) {
-              ChannelMemberRow(member)
-            }
+        }
+      }
+    } else {
+      val owners = members.filter { it.memberRole >= GroupMemberRole.Owner }
+      SectionView(title = generalGetString(MR.strings.channel_members_section_owners)) {
+        owners.forEachIndexed { index, member ->
+          if (index > 0) {
+            Divider()
+          }
+          SectionItemView(
+            click = { showMemberInfo(member) },
+            minHeight = 54.dp,
+            padding = PaddingValues(horizontal = DEFAULT_PADDING)
+          ) {
+            ChannelMemberRow(member, user = false, showRole = false)
           }
         }
       }
@@ -96,7 +81,7 @@ fun ChannelMembersView(
 }
 
 @Composable
-private fun ChannelMemberRow(member: GroupMember) {
+private fun ChannelMemberRow(member: GroupMember, user: Boolean, showRole: Boolean) {
   Row(
     Modifier.fillMaxWidth(),
     verticalAlignment = Alignment.CenterVertically,
@@ -104,15 +89,30 @@ private fun ChannelMemberRow(member: GroupMember) {
   ) {
     MemberProfileImage(size = 38.dp, member)
     Spacer(Modifier.width(2.dp))
-    Row(verticalAlignment = Alignment.CenterVertically) {
-      if (member.verified) {
-        MemberVerifiedShield()
+    Column(Modifier.weight(1f)) {
+      Row(verticalAlignment = Alignment.CenterVertically) {
+        if (member.verified) {
+          MemberVerifiedShield()
+        }
+        Text(
+          member.chatViewName,
+          maxLines = 1,
+          overflow = TextOverflow.Ellipsis,
+          color = if (member.memberIncognito) Indigo else Color.Unspecified
+        )
       }
+      if (user) {
+        Text(
+          generalGetString(MR.strings.channel_member_you),
+          style = MaterialTheme.typography.body2,
+          color = MaterialTheme.colors.secondary
+        )
+      }
+    }
+    if (showRole) {
       Text(
-        member.chatViewName,
-        maxLines = 1,
-        overflow = TextOverflow.Ellipsis,
-        color = if (member.memberIncognito) Indigo else Color.Unspecified
+        member.memberRole.text,
+        color = MaterialTheme.colors.secondary
       )
     }
   }
diff --git a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/group/GroupChatInfoView.kt b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/group/GroupChatInfoView.kt
index 99e5d6d5e2..5558944bf9 100644
--- a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/group/GroupChatInfoView.kt
+++ b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/chat/group/GroupChatInfoView.kt
@@ -852,6 +852,17 @@ private fun GroupChatInfoHeader(cInfo: ChatInfo, groupInfo: GroupInfo) {
       modifier = Modifier.combinedClickable(onClick = copyDisplayName, onLongClick = copyDisplayName).onRightClick(copyDisplayName)
     )
     ChatInfoDescription(cInfo, displayName, copyNameToClipboard)
+    if (groupInfo.useRelays) {
+      val count = groupInfo.groupSummary.publicMemberCount
+      if (count != null && count > 0) {
+        Text(
+          subscriberCountStr(count),
+          style = MaterialTheme.typography.body2,
+          color = MaterialTheme.colors.secondary,
+          modifier = Modifier.padding(bottom = 2.dp)
+        )
+      }
+    }
   }
 }
 
@@ -1118,7 +1129,7 @@ private fun ChannelLinkQRCodeSection(groupLink: String) {
 @Composable
 private fun ChannelMembersButton(rhId: Long?, groupInfo: GroupInfo, showMemberInfo: (GroupMember, GroupRelay?) -> Unit) {
   val title = if (groupInfo.isOwner) {
-    stringResource(MR.strings.channel_members_title_owners_and_subscribers)
+    stringResource(MR.strings.channel_members_title_subscribers)
   } else {
     stringResource(MR.strings.channel_members_section_owners)
   }
diff --git a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/helpers/AlertManager.kt b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/helpers/AlertManager.kt
index dc0a86b8fb..34d8099951 100644
--- a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/helpers/AlertManager.kt
+++ b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/helpers/AlertManager.kt
@@ -272,6 +272,7 @@ class AlertManager {
     profileName: String,
     profileFullName: String,
     profileImage: @Composable () -> Unit,
+    subtitle: String? = null,
     confirmText: String = generalGetString(MR.strings.connect_plan_open_chat),
     onConfirm: () -> Unit,
     dismissText: String = generalGetString(MR.strings.cancel_verb),
@@ -317,6 +318,17 @@ class AlertManager {
                     modifier = Modifier.fillMaxWidth()
                   )
                 }
+                if (subtitle != null) {
+                  Spacer(Modifier.height(DEFAULT_PADDING_HALF))
+                  Text(
+                    subtitle,
+                    textAlign = TextAlign.Center,
+                    style = MaterialTheme.typography.body2,
+                    color = MaterialTheme.colors.secondary,
+                    maxLines = 1,
+                    modifier = Modifier.fillMaxWidth()
+                  )
+                }
               }
 
               Column(
diff --git a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/newchat/ConnectPlan.kt b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/newchat/ConnectPlan.kt
index c5e5517cfc..baa57fb193 100644
--- a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/newchat/ConnectPlan.kt
+++ b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/kotlin/chat/simplex/common/views/newchat/ConnectPlan.kt
@@ -11,6 +11,7 @@ import androidx.compose.ui.unit.dp
 import dev.icerock.moko.resources.compose.stringResource
 import chat.simplex.common.model.*
 import chat.simplex.common.platform.*
+import chat.simplex.common.views.chat.subscriberCountStr
 import chat.simplex.common.views.chatlist.*
 import chat.simplex.common.views.helpers.*
 import chat.simplex.res.MR
@@ -503,6 +504,7 @@ fun ownGroupLinkConfirmConnect(
 }
 
 private fun showOpenKnownGroupAlert(chatModel: ChatModel, rhId: Long?, close: (() -> Unit)?, groupInfo: GroupInfo) {
+  val subscriberCount = if (groupInfo.useRelays) groupInfo.groupSummary.publicMemberCount?.let { subscriberCountStr(it) } else null
   AlertManager.privacySensitive.showOpenChatAlert(
     profileName = groupInfo.groupProfile.displayName,
     profileFullName = groupInfo.groupProfile.fullName,
@@ -513,6 +515,7 @@ private fun showOpenKnownGroupAlert(chatModel: ChatModel, rhId: Long?, close: ((
         icon = groupInfo.chatIconName
       )
     },
+    subtitle = subscriberCount,
     confirmText = generalGetString(
       if (groupInfo.useRelays) {
         if (groupInfo.nextConnectPrepared) MR.strings.connect_plan_open_new_channel else MR.strings.connect_plan_open_channel
@@ -588,6 +591,7 @@ fun showPrepareGroupAlert(
   cleanup: (() -> Unit)?
 ) {
   val isChannel = !(groupShortLinkInfo?.direct ?: true)
+  val subscriberCount = if (isChannel) groupShortLinkData.publicGroupData?.publicMemberCount?.let { subscriberCountStr(it) } else null
   AlertManager.privacySensitive.showOpenChatAlert(
     profileName = groupShortLinkData.groupProfile.displayName,
     profileFullName = groupShortLinkData.groupProfile.fullName,
@@ -598,6 +602,7 @@ fun showPrepareGroupAlert(
         icon = if (isChannel) MR.images.ic_bigtop_updates else MR.images.ic_supervised_user_circle_filled
       )
     },
+    subtitle = subscriberCount,
     confirmText = generalGetString(if (isChannel) MR.strings.connect_plan_open_new_channel else MR.strings.connect_plan_open_new_group),
     onConfirm = {
       AlertManager.privacySensitive.hideAlert()
diff --git a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/resources/MR/base/strings.xml b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/resources/MR/base/strings.xml
index cf8e9431f1..67816bcd69 100644
--- a/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/resources/MR/base/strings.xml
+++ b/apps/multiplatform/common/src/commonMain/resources/MR/base/strings.xml
@@ -2821,10 +2821,11 @@
   <string name="max_group_mentions_per_message_reached">You can mention up to %1$s members per message!</string>
 
   <!-- ChannelMembersView.kt -->
-  <string name="channel_members_title_owners_and_subscribers">Owners &amp; subscribers</string>
+  <string name="channel_members_title_subscribers">Subscribers</string>
   <string name="channel_members_section_owners">Owners</string>
-  <string name="channel_members_num_subscribers">%1$d subscribers</string>
-  <string name="channel_members_no_subscribers">No subscribers</string>
+  <string name="channel_subscriber_count_singular">%1$d subscriber</string>
+  <string name="channel_subscriber_count_plural">%1$d subscribers</string>
+  <string name="channel_member_you">you</string>
 
   <!-- ChatRelayView.kt -->
   <string name="chat_relay">Chat relay</string>
diff --git a/bots/api/EVENTS.md b/bots/api/EVENTS.md
index 39801bcb5c..1dcdf5163c 100644
--- a/bots/api/EVENTS.md
+++ b/bots/api/EVENTS.md
@@ -38,7 +38,7 @@ This file is generated automatically.
   - [MemberAcceptedByOther](#memberacceptedbyother)
   - [MemberBlockedForAll](#memberblockedforall)
   - [GroupMemberUpdated](#groupmemberupdated)
-  - [GroupLinkRelaysUpdated](#grouplinkrelaysupdated)
+  - [GroupLinkDataUpdated](#grouplinkdataupdated)
 
 [File events](#file-events)
 - Main events
@@ -453,16 +453,17 @@ Another group member profile updated.
 ---
 
 
-### GroupLinkRelaysUpdated
+### GroupLinkDataUpdated
 
-Group link relays updated.
+Group link data updated.
 
 **Record type**:
-- type: "groupLinkRelaysUpdated"
+- type: "groupLinkDataUpdated"
 - user: [User](./TYPES.md#user)
 - groupInfo: [GroupInfo](./TYPES.md#groupinfo)
 - groupLink: [GroupLink](./TYPES.md#grouplink)
 - groupRelays: [[GroupRelay](./TYPES.md#grouprelay)]
+- relaysChanged: bool
 
 ---
 
diff --git a/bots/api/TYPES.md b/bots/api/TYPES.md
index 2e6b4a755e..e097205aa0 100644
--- a/bots/api/TYPES.md
+++ b/bots/api/TYPES.md
@@ -136,6 +136,7 @@ This file is generated automatically.
 - [Profile](#profile)
 - [ProxyClientError](#proxyclienterror)
 - [ProxyError](#proxyerror)
+- [PublicGroupData](#publicgroupdata)
 - [RCErrorType](#rcerrortype)
 - [RatchetSyncState](#ratchetsyncstate)
 - [RcvConnEvent](#rcvconnevent)
@@ -2418,6 +2419,7 @@ Public:
 
 **Record type**:
 - groupProfile: [GroupProfile](#groupprofile)
+- publicGroupData: [PublicGroupData](#publicgroupdata)?
 
 
 ---
@@ -2436,6 +2438,7 @@ Public:
 
 **Record type**:
 - currentMembers: int64
+- publicMemberCount: int64?
 
 
 ---
@@ -2893,6 +2896,14 @@ NO_SESSION:
 - type: "NO_SESSION"
 
 
+---
+
+## PublicGroupData
+
+**Record type**:
+- publicMemberCount: int64
+
+
 ---
 
 ## RCErrorType
diff --git a/bots/src/API/Docs/Commands.hs b/bots/src/API/Docs/Commands.hs
index bb48bca06c..03f1e53441 100644
--- a/bots/src/API/Docs/Commands.hs
+++ b/bots/src/API/Docs/Commands.hs
@@ -369,6 +369,7 @@ undocumentedCommands =
     "APIGetUsageConditions",
     "APIGetUserServers",
     "APIGroupInfo",
+    "APIGetUpdatedGroupLinkData",
     "APIGroupMemberInfo",
     "APIGroupMemberQueueInfo",
     "APIHideUser",
diff --git a/bots/src/API/Docs/Events.hs b/bots/src/API/Docs/Events.hs
index ec58985ceb..0d1998aa28 100644
--- a/bots/src/API/Docs/Events.hs
+++ b/bots/src/API/Docs/Events.hs
@@ -98,7 +98,7 @@ chatEventsDocsData =
         ("CEvtMemberAcceptedByOther", "Another group owner, admin or moderator accepted member to the group after review (\"knocking\")."),
         ("CEvtMemberBlockedForAll", "Another member blocked for all members."),
         ("CEvtGroupMemberUpdated", "Another group member profile updated."),
-        ("CEvtGroupLinkRelaysUpdated", "Group link relays updated.")
+        ("CEvtGroupLinkDataUpdated", "Group link data updated.")
       ]
     ),
     ( "File events",
diff --git a/bots/src/API/Docs/Types.hs b/bots/src/API/Docs/Types.hs
index 1b8b8fbc7f..7c526ec58a 100644
--- a/bots/src/API/Docs/Types.hs
+++ b/bots/src/API/Docs/Types.hs
@@ -319,6 +319,7 @@ chatTypesDocsData =
     (sti @Profile, STRecord, "", [], "", ""),
     (sti @ProxyClientError, STUnion, "Proxy", [], "", ""),
     (sti @ProxyError, STUnion, "", [], "", ""),
+    (sti @PublicGroupData, STRecord, "", [], "", ""),
     (sti @RatchetSyncState, STEnum, "RS", [], "", ""),
     (sti @RCErrorType, STUnion, "RCE", [], "", ""),
     (sti @RcvConnEvent, STUnion, "RCE", [], "", ""),
@@ -518,6 +519,7 @@ deriving instance Generic PreparedGroup
 deriving instance Generic Profile
 deriving instance Generic ProxyClientError
 deriving instance Generic ProxyError
+deriving instance Generic PublicGroupData
 deriving instance Generic RatchetSyncState
 deriving instance Generic RCErrorType
 deriving instance Generic RcvConnEvent
diff --git a/packages/simplex-chat-client/types/typescript/src/events.ts b/packages/simplex-chat-client/types/typescript/src/events.ts
index 4c569c1788..72d1b5e0b9 100644
--- a/packages/simplex-chat-client/types/typescript/src/events.ts
+++ b/packages/simplex-chat-client/types/typescript/src/events.ts
@@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ export type ChatEvent =
   | CEvt.MemberAcceptedByOther
   | CEvt.MemberBlockedForAll
   | CEvt.GroupMemberUpdated
-  | CEvt.GroupLinkRelaysUpdated
+  | CEvt.GroupLinkDataUpdated
   | CEvt.RcvFileDescrReady
   | CEvt.RcvFileComplete
   | CEvt.SndFileCompleteXFTP
@@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ export namespace CEvt {
     | "memberAcceptedByOther"
     | "memberBlockedForAll"
     | "groupMemberUpdated"
-    | "groupLinkRelaysUpdated"
+    | "groupLinkDataUpdated"
     | "rcvFileDescrReady"
     | "rcvFileComplete"
     | "sndFileCompleteXFTP"
@@ -305,12 +305,13 @@ export namespace CEvt {
     toMember: T.GroupMember
   }
 
-  export interface GroupLinkRelaysUpdated extends Interface {
-    type: "groupLinkRelaysUpdated"
+  export interface GroupLinkDataUpdated extends Interface {
+    type: "groupLinkDataUpdated"
     user: T.User
     groupInfo: T.GroupInfo
     groupLink: T.GroupLink
     groupRelays: T.GroupRelay[]
+    relaysChanged: boolean
   }
 
   export interface RcvFileDescrReady extends Interface {
diff --git a/packages/simplex-chat-client/types/typescript/src/types.ts b/packages/simplex-chat-client/types/typescript/src/types.ts
index a630a11992..c388072846 100644
--- a/packages/simplex-chat-client/types/typescript/src/types.ts
+++ b/packages/simplex-chat-client/types/typescript/src/types.ts
@@ -2706,6 +2706,7 @@ export namespace GroupRootKey {
 
 export interface GroupShortLinkData {
   groupProfile: GroupProfile
+  publicGroupData?: PublicGroupData
 }
 
 export interface GroupShortLinkInfo {
@@ -2716,6 +2717,7 @@ export interface GroupShortLinkInfo {
 
 export interface GroupSummary {
   currentMembers: number // int64
+  publicMemberCount?: number // int64
 }
 
 export interface GroupSupportChat {
@@ -3204,6 +3206,10 @@ export namespace ProxyError {
   }
 }
 
+export interface PublicGroupData {
+  publicMemberCount: number // int64
+}
+
 export type RCErrorType = 
   | RCErrorType.Internal
   | RCErrorType.Identity
diff --git a/src/Simplex/Chat/Controller.hs b/src/Simplex/Chat/Controller.hs
index 8c30984337..3e8c7550dc 100644
--- a/src/Simplex/Chat/Controller.hs
+++ b/src/Simplex/Chat/Controller.hs
@@ -427,6 +427,7 @@ data ChatCommand
   | APISetMemberSettings GroupId GroupMemberId GroupMemberSettings
   | APIContactInfo ContactId
   | APIGroupInfo GroupId
+  | APIGetUpdatedGroupLinkData {groupId :: GroupId}
   | APIGroupMemberInfo GroupId GroupMemberId
   | APIContactQueueInfo ContactId
   | APIGroupMemberQueueInfo GroupId GroupMemberId
@@ -856,7 +857,7 @@ data ChatEvent
   | CEvtHostDisconnected {protocol :: AProtocolType, transportHost :: TransportHost}
   | CEvtReceivedGroupInvitation {user :: User, groupInfo :: GroupInfo, contact :: Contact, fromMemberRole :: GroupMemberRole, memberRole :: GroupMemberRole}
   | CEvtUserJoinedGroup {user :: User, groupInfo :: GroupInfo, hostMember :: GroupMember}
-  | CEvtGroupLinkRelaysUpdated {user :: User, groupInfo :: GroupInfo, groupLink :: GroupLink, groupRelays :: [GroupRelay]}
+  | CEvtGroupLinkDataUpdated {user :: User, groupInfo :: GroupInfo, groupLink :: GroupLink, groupRelays :: [GroupRelay], relaysChanged :: Bool}
   | CEvtJoinedGroupMember {user :: User, groupInfo :: GroupInfo, member :: GroupMember} -- there is the same command response
   | CEvtJoinedGroupMemberConnecting {user :: User, groupInfo :: GroupInfo, hostMember :: GroupMember, member :: GroupMember}
   | CEvtMemberAcceptedByOther {user :: User, groupInfo :: GroupInfo, acceptingMember :: GroupMember, member :: GroupMember}
diff --git a/src/Simplex/Chat/Library/Commands.hs b/src/Simplex/Chat/Library/Commands.hs
index 191c4af8a0..c9d85b9f45 100644
--- a/src/Simplex/Chat/Library/Commands.hs
+++ b/src/Simplex/Chat/Library/Commands.hs
@@ -1685,6 +1685,18 @@ processChatCommand vr nm = \case
       Nothing -> throwChatError $ CEContactNotActive ct
   APIGroupInfo gId -> withUser $ \user ->
     CRGroupInfo user <$> withFastStore (\db -> getGroupInfo db vr user gId)
+  APIGetUpdatedGroupLinkData groupId -> withUser $ \user -> do
+    gInfo@GroupInfo {groupProfile = GroupProfile {groupLink}} <- withFastStore $ \db -> getGroupInfo db vr user groupId
+    case groupLink of
+      Just sLnk | useRelays' gInfo -> do
+        (_, cData) <- getShortLinkConnReq nm user sLnk
+        groupSLinkData_ <- liftIO $ decodeLinkUserData cData
+        let publicGroupData_ = groupSLinkData_ >>= \GroupShortLinkData {publicGroupData} -> publicGroupData
+            publicMemberCount_ = (\PublicGroupData {publicMemberCount} -> publicMemberCount) <$> publicGroupData_
+        gInfo' <- fromMaybe gInfo
+          <$> forM publicMemberCount_ (\count -> withFastStore $ \db -> setPublicMemberCount db vr user gInfo count)
+        pure $ CRGroupInfo user gInfo'
+      _ -> throwCmdError "group link data not available"
   APIGroupMemberInfo gId gMemberId -> withUser $ \user -> do
     (g, m) <- withFastStore $ \db -> (,) <$> getGroupInfo db vr user gId <*> getGroupMember db vr user gId gMemberId
     connectionStats <- mapM (withAgent . flip getConnectionServers) (memberConnId m)
@@ -1893,7 +1905,7 @@ processChatCommand vr nm = \case
                 groupPreferences = maybe defaultBusinessGroupPrefs businessGroupPrefs preferences
                 groupProfile = businessGroupProfile profile groupPreferences
             gVar <- asks random
-            (gInfo, hostMember_) <- withStore $ \db -> createPreparedGroup db gVar vr user groupProfile True ccLink welcomeSharedMsgId False GRMember
+            (gInfo, hostMember_) <- withStore $ \db -> createPreparedGroup db gVar vr user groupProfile True ccLink welcomeSharedMsgId False GRMember Nothing
             hostMember <- maybe (throwCmdError "no host member") pure hostMember_
             void $ createChatItem user (CDGroupSnd gInfo Nothing) False CIChatBanner Nothing (Just epochStart)
             let cd = CDGroupRcv gInfo Nothing hostMember
@@ -1919,12 +1931,13 @@ processChatCommand vr nm = \case
               _ -> Chat cInfo [] emptyChatStats
         pure $ CRNewPreparedChat user $ AChat SCTDirect chat
   APIPrepareGroup userId ccLink direct groupSLinkData -> withUserId userId $ \user -> do
-    let GroupShortLinkData {groupProfile = gp@GroupProfile {description}} = groupSLinkData
+    let GroupShortLinkData {groupProfile = gp@GroupProfile {description}, publicGroupData = publicGroupData_} = groupSLinkData
+        publicMemberCount_ = (\PublicGroupData {publicMemberCount} -> publicMemberCount) <$> publicGroupData_
     welcomeSharedMsgId <- forM description $ \_ -> getSharedMsgId
     let useRelays = not direct
     subRole <- if useRelays then asks $ channelSubscriberRole . config else pure GRMember
     gVar <- asks random
-    (gInfo, hostMember_) <- withStore $ \db -> createPreparedGroup db gVar vr user gp False ccLink welcomeSharedMsgId useRelays subRole
+    (gInfo, hostMember_) <- withStore $ \db -> createPreparedGroup db gVar vr user gp False ccLink welcomeSharedMsgId useRelays subRole publicMemberCount_
     void $ createChatItem user (CDGroupSnd gInfo Nothing) False CIChatBanner Nothing (Just epochStart)
     let cd = maybe (CDChannelRcv gInfo Nothing) (CDGroupRcv gInfo Nothing) hostMember_
         cInfo = GroupChat gInfo Nothing
@@ -2009,7 +2022,10 @@ processChatCommand vr nm = \case
         sLnk <- case toShortLinkContact connLinkToConnect of
           Just sl -> pure sl
           Nothing -> throwChatError $ CEException "failed to retrieve relays: no short link"
-        (FixedLinkData {linkConnReq = mainCReq@(CRContactUri crData), linkEntityId, rootKey}, ContactLinkData _ UserContactData {owners, relays}) <- getShortLinkConnReq nm user sLnk
+        (FixedLinkData {linkConnReq = mainCReq@(CRContactUri crData), linkEntityId, rootKey}, cData@(ContactLinkData _ UserContactData {owners, relays})) <- getShortLinkConnReq nm user sLnk
+        groupSLinkData_ <- liftIO $ decodeLinkUserData cData
+        let publicGroupData_ = groupSLinkData_ >>= \GroupShortLinkData {publicGroupData} -> publicGroupData
+            publicMemberCount_ = (\PublicGroupData {publicMemberCount} -> publicMemberCount) <$> publicGroupData_
         -- Prepare group record once before connecting to relays (updatePreparedRelayedGroup):
         -- set group link info and incognito profile, generate and store membership keys
         incognitoProfile <- if incognito then Just <$> liftIO generateRandomProfile else pure Nothing
@@ -2017,7 +2033,7 @@ processChatCommand vr nm = \case
         gVar <- asks random
         (_, memberPrivKey) <- liftIO $ atomically $ C.generateKeyPair gVar
         gInfo' <- withFastStore $ \db -> do
-          gInfo' <- updatePreparedRelayedGroup db vr user gInfo mainCReq cReqHash incognitoProfile linkEntityId rootKey memberPrivKey
+          gInfo' <- updatePreparedRelayedGroup db vr user gInfo mainCReq cReqHash incognitoProfile linkEntityId rootKey memberPrivKey publicMemberCount_
           -- Pre-emptively create owner members with trusted keys from link data
           forM_ owners $ \OwnerAuth {ownerId, ownerKey} ->
             void $ createLinkOwnerMember db vr user gInfo' (MemberId ownerId) ownerKey
@@ -2350,13 +2366,13 @@ processChatCommand vr nm = \case
   APINewGroup userId incognito gProfile -> withUserId userId $ \user -> do
     g <- asks random
     memberId <- liftIO $ MemberId <$> encodedRandomBytes g 12
-    gInfo <- newGroup user incognito gProfile False memberId Nothing
+    gInfo <- newGroup user incognito gProfile False memberId Nothing Nothing
     pure $ CRGroupCreated user gInfo
   NewGroup incognito gProfile -> withUser $ \User {userId} ->
     processChatCommand vr nm $ APINewGroup userId incognito gProfile
   APINewPublicGroup userId incognito relayIds groupProfile -> withUserId userId $ \user -> do
     (gProfile', memberId, groupKeys, setupLink) <- prepareGroupLink user
-    gInfo <- newGroup user incognito gProfile' True memberId (Just groupKeys)
+    gInfo <- newGroup user incognito gProfile' True memberId (Just groupKeys) (Just 1)
     (gLink, groupRelays) <- setupLink gInfo `catchAllErrors` \e -> do
       deleteInProgressGroup user gInfo
       throwError e
@@ -2379,7 +2395,7 @@ processChatCommand vr nm = \case
         memberId <- MemberId <$> liftIO (encodedRandomBytes gVar 12)
         (memberPrivKey, ownerAuth) <- liftIO $ SL.newOwnerAuth gVar (unMemberId memberId) rootPrivKey
         let groupProfile' = (groupProfile :: GroupProfile) {groupLink = Just sLnk}
-            userData = encodeShortLinkData $ GroupShortLinkData groupProfile'
+            userData = encodeShortLinkData $ GroupShortLinkData {groupProfile = groupProfile', publicGroupData = Just (PublicGroupData 1)}
             userLinkData = UserContactLinkData UserContactData {direct = False, owners = [ownerAuth], relays = [], userData}
         -- create connection with prepared link (single network call)
         connId <- withAgent $ \a -> createConnectionForLink a nm (aUserId user) True ccLink preparedParams userLinkData IKPQOff subMode
@@ -2675,8 +2691,11 @@ processChatCommand vr nm = \case
           errs = errs1 <> errs2 <> errs3 <> errs4
           deleted = deleted1 <> deleted2 <> deleted3 <> deleted4
           msgSigned = signed2 || signed3 || signed4
-      -- Read group info with updated membersRequireAttention
-      gInfo' <- withFastStore $ \db -> getGroupInfo db vr user groupId
+      -- Read group info with updated membersRequireAttention and publicMemberCount
+      gInfo' <-
+        if useRelays' gInfo
+          then updatePublicGroupData user gInfo
+          else withFastStore $ \db -> getGroupInfo db vr user groupId
       let acis' = map (updateACIGroupInfo gInfo') acis
       unless (null acis') $ toView $ CEvtNewChatItems user acis'
       unless (null errs) $ toView $ CEvtChatErrors errs
@@ -2834,7 +2853,7 @@ processChatCommand vr nm = \case
     when (mRole > GRMember) $ throwChatError $ CEGroupMemberInitialRole gInfo mRole
     groupLinkId <- GroupLinkId <$> drgRandomBytes 16
     subMode <- chatReadVar subscriptionMode
-    let userData = encodeShortLinkData $ GroupShortLinkData groupProfile
+    let userData = encodeShortLinkData $ GroupShortLinkData {groupProfile, publicGroupData = Nothing}
         userLinkData = UserContactLinkData UserContactData {direct = True, owners = [], relays = [], userData}
         crClientData = encodeJSON $ CRDataGroup groupLinkId
     -- TODO [certs rcv]
@@ -3430,7 +3449,6 @@ processChatCommand vr nm = \case
               let allowSimplexLinks = maybe True (groupFeatureUserAllowed SGFSimplexLinks) gInfo_'
                in userProfileInGroup' user allowSimplexLinks incognitoProfile
             Nothing -> userProfileDirect user incognitoProfile Nothing True
-      g <- asks random
       chatEvent <- case gInfo_ of
         Just (Just gInfo) | useRelays' gInfo -> do
           let GroupInfo {membership = GroupMember {memberId}} = gInfo
@@ -3682,12 +3700,12 @@ processChatCommand vr nm = \case
         groupId <- getGroupIdByName db user gName
         groupMemberId <- getGroupMemberIdByName db user groupId groupMemberName
         pure (groupId, groupMemberId)
-    newGroup :: User -> IncognitoEnabled -> GroupProfile -> Bool -> MemberId -> Maybe GroupKeys -> CM GroupInfo
-    newGroup user incognito gProfile@GroupProfile {displayName} useRelays memberId groupKeys_ = do
+    newGroup :: User -> IncognitoEnabled -> GroupProfile -> Bool -> MemberId -> Maybe GroupKeys -> Maybe Int64 -> CM GroupInfo
+    newGroup user incognito gProfile@GroupProfile {displayName} useRelays memberId groupKeys_ publicMemberCount_ = do
       checkValidName displayName
       -- [incognito] generate incognito profile for group membership
       incognitoProfile <- if incognito then Just <$> liftIO generateRandomProfile else pure Nothing
-      gInfo <- withFastStore $ \db -> createNewGroup db vr user gProfile incognitoProfile useRelays memberId groupKeys_
+      gInfo <- withFastStore $ \db -> createNewGroup db vr user gProfile incognitoProfile useRelays memberId groupKeys_ publicMemberCount_
       let cd = CDGroupSnd gInfo Nothing
       createInternalChatItem user cd CIChatBanner (Just epochStart)
       createInternalChatItem user cd (CISndGroupE2EEInfo E2EInfo {pqEnabled = Just PQEncOff}) Nothing
@@ -4759,6 +4777,7 @@ chatCommandP =
       "/_member settings #" *> (APISetMemberSettings <$> A.decimal <* A.space <*> A.decimal <* A.space <*> jsonP),
       "/_info #" *> (APIGroupMemberInfo <$> A.decimal <* A.space <*> A.decimal),
       "/_info #" *> (APIGroupInfo <$> A.decimal),
+      "/_get group link data #" *> (APIGetUpdatedGroupLinkData <$> A.decimal),
       "/_info @" *> (APIContactInfo <$> A.decimal),
       ("/info #" <|> "/i #") *> (GroupMemberInfo <$> displayNameP <* A.space <* char_ '@' <*> displayNameP),
       ("/info #" <|> "/i #") *> (ShowGroupInfo <$> displayNameP),
diff --git a/src/Simplex/Chat/Library/Internal.hs b/src/Simplex/Chat/Library/Internal.hs
index 9c99b1d814..6af078dbe6 100644
--- a/src/Simplex/Chat/Library/Internal.hs
+++ b/src/Simplex/Chat/Library/Internal.hs
@@ -1298,7 +1298,7 @@ setGroupLinkData :: NetworkRequestMode -> User -> GroupInfo -> GroupLink -> CM G
 setGroupLinkData nm user gInfo gLink = do
   vr <- chatVersionRange
   (conn, groupRelays) <- withFastStore $ \db ->
-    (,) <$> getGroupLinkConnection db vr user gInfo <*> liftIO (getGroupRelays db gInfo)
+    (,) <$> getGroupLinkConnection db vr user gInfo <*> liftIO (getConnectedGroupRelays db gInfo)
   let (userLinkData, crClientData) = groupLinkData gInfo gLink groupRelays
   sLnk <- shortenShortLink' . toShortGroupLink =<< withAgent (\a -> setConnShortLink a nm (aConnId conn) SCMContact userLinkData (Just crClientData))
   withFastStore' $ \db -> setGroupLinkShortLink db gLink sLnk
@@ -1307,16 +1307,29 @@ setGroupLinkDataAsync :: User -> GroupInfo -> GroupLink -> CM ()
 setGroupLinkDataAsync user gInfo gLink = do
   vr <- chatVersionRange
   (conn, groupRelays) <- withStore $ \db ->
-    (,) <$> getGroupLinkConnection db vr user gInfo <*> liftIO (getGroupRelays db gInfo)
+    (,) <$> getGroupLinkConnection db vr user gInfo <*> liftIO (getConnectedGroupRelays db gInfo)
   let (userLinkData, crClientData) = groupLinkData gInfo gLink groupRelays
   setAgentConnShortLinkAsync user conn userLinkData (Just crClientData)
 
+updatePublicGroupData :: User -> GroupInfo -> CM GroupInfo
+updatePublicGroupData user gInfo
+  | useRelays' gInfo && memberRole' (membership gInfo) == GROwner = do
+      vr <- chatVersionRange
+      (gInfo', gLink) <- withStore $ \db -> do
+        gInfo' <- updatePublicMemberCount db vr user gInfo
+        gLink <- getGroupLink db user gInfo'
+        pure (gInfo', gLink)
+      setGroupLinkDataAsync user gInfo' gLink
+      pure gInfo'
+  | otherwise = pure gInfo
+
 -- TODO [relays] owner: set owners on updating link data
 groupLinkData :: GroupInfo -> GroupLink -> [GroupRelay] -> (UserConnLinkData 'CMContact, CRClientData)
-groupLinkData gInfo@GroupInfo {groupProfile} GroupLink {groupLinkId} groupRelays =
+groupLinkData gInfo@GroupInfo {groupProfile, groupSummary = GroupSummary {publicMemberCount}} GroupLink {groupLinkId} groupRelays =
   let direct = not $ useRelays' gInfo
       relays = mapMaybe (\GroupRelay {relayLink} -> relayLink) groupRelays
-      userData = encodeShortLinkData $ GroupShortLinkData groupProfile
+      publicGroupData_ = PublicGroupData <$> publicMemberCount
+      userData = encodeShortLinkData $ GroupShortLinkData {groupProfile, publicGroupData = publicGroupData_}
       userLinkData = UserContactLinkData UserContactData {direct, owners = [], relays, userData}
       crClientData = encodeJSON $ CRDataGroup groupLinkId
    in (userLinkData, crClientData)
diff --git a/src/Simplex/Chat/Library/Subscriber.hs b/src/Simplex/Chat/Library/Subscriber.hs
index 28e00fea8f..294531e0f8 100644
--- a/src/Simplex/Chat/Library/Subscriber.hs
+++ b/src/Simplex/Chat/Library/Subscriber.hs
@@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ import Control.Monad.Reader
 import Data.ByteString.Char8 (ByteString)
 import qualified Data.ByteString.Char8 as B
 import Data.Either (lefts, partitionEithers, rights)
-import Data.Foldable (foldr')
+import Data.Foldable (foldr', foldrM)
 import Data.Functor (($>))
 import Data.Int (Int64)
 import Data.List (find)
@@ -1233,25 +1233,25 @@ processAgentMessageConn vr user@User {userId} corrId agentConnId agentMessage =
             CFSetShortLink ->
               case (ucGroupId_, auData) of
                 (Just groupId, UserContactLinkData UserContactData {relays = relayLinks}) -> do
-                  (gInfo, gLink, relays) <- withStore $ \db -> do
+                  (gInfo, gLink, relays, relaysChanged) <- withStore $ \db -> do
                     gInfo <- getGroupInfo db vr user groupId
                     gLink <- getGroupLink db user gInfo
                     relays <- liftIO $ getGroupRelays db gInfo
-                    relays' <- liftIO $ mapM (updateRelay db) relays
+                    (relays', changed) <- liftIO $ foldrM (updateRelay db) ([], False) relays
                     liftIO $ setGroupInProgressDone db gInfo
-                    pure (gInfo, gLink, relays')
-                  -- TODO [relays] owner: "relays updated" chat item?
-                  toView $ CEvtGroupLinkRelaysUpdated user gInfo gLink relays
+                    pure (gInfo, gLink, relays', changed)
+                  toView $ CEvtGroupLinkDataUpdated user gInfo gLink relays relaysChanged
                   where
                     -- TODO [relays] owner: on relay deletion (link absent from relayLinks)
                     -- TODO          move status RSActive to new "Removed" status / remove relay record
-                    updateRelay :: DB.Connection -> GroupRelay -> IO GroupRelay
-                    updateRelay db relay@GroupRelay {relayLink, relayStatus} =
+                    updateRelay :: DB.Connection -> GroupRelay -> ([GroupRelay], Bool) -> IO ([GroupRelay], Bool)
+                    updateRelay db relay@GroupRelay {relayLink, relayStatus} (acc, changed) =
                       case relayLink of
                         Just rLink
-                          | rLink `elem` relayLinks && relayStatus == RSAccepted ->
-                              updateRelayStatus db relay RSActive
-                        _ -> pure relay
+                          | rLink `elem` relayLinks && relayStatus == RSAccepted -> do
+                              relay' <- updateRelayStatus db relay RSActive
+                              pure (relay' : acc, True)
+                        _ -> pure (relay : acc, changed)
                 _ -> throwChatError $ CECommandError "LINK event expected for a group link only"
             _ -> throwChatError $ CECommandError "unexpected cmdFunction"
       MERR _ err -> do
@@ -2765,8 +2765,9 @@ processAgentMessageConn vr user@User {userId} corrId agentConnId agentMessage =
                     then liftIO $ increaseGroupMembersRequireAttention db user gInfo
                     else pure gInfo
                 pure (updatedMember, gInfo')
-              toView $ CEvtUnknownMemberAnnounced user gInfo' m unknownMember updatedMember
-              memberAnnouncedToView updatedMember gInfo'
+              gInfo'' <- updatePublicGroupData user gInfo'
+              toView $ CEvtUnknownMemberAnnounced user gInfo'' m unknownMember updatedMember
+              memberAnnouncedToView updatedMember gInfo''
               pure $ deliveryJobScope updatedMember
             Right _
               | useRelays' gInfo -> logInfo "x.grp.mem.new: member already created via another relay" $> Nothing
@@ -2779,7 +2780,8 @@ processAgentMessageConn vr user@User {userId} corrId agentConnId agentMessage =
                     then liftIO $ increaseGroupMembersRequireAttention db user gInfo
                     else pure gInfo
                 pure (newMember, gInfo')
-              memberAnnouncedToView newMember gInfo'
+              gInfo'' <- updatePublicGroupData user gInfo'
+              memberAnnouncedToView newMember gInfo''
               pure $ deliveryJobScope newMember
       where
         initialStatus = case msgScope_ of
@@ -2986,11 +2988,12 @@ processAgentMessageConn vr user@User {userId} corrId agentConnId agentMessage =
                   Just (DJSMemberSupport _) | shouldForward -> updateMemberRecordDeleted user gInfo deletedMember GSMemRemoved
                   -- Undeleted "member connected" chat item will prevent deletion of member record.
                   _ -> deleteOrUpdateMemberRecord user gInfo deletedMember
+                gInfo'' <- updatePublicGroupData user gInfo'
                 let wasDeleted = memberStatus == GSMemRemoved || memberStatus == GSMemLeft
                     deletedMember' = deletedMember {memberStatus = GSMemRemoved}
-                when withMessages $ deleteMessages gInfo' deletedMember' SMDRcv
-                unless wasDeleted $ deleteMemberItem gInfo' $ RGEMemberDeleted groupMemberId (fromLocalProfile memberProfile)
-                toView $ CEvtDeletedMember user gInfo' m deletedMember' withMessages msgSigned
+                when withMessages $ deleteMessages gInfo'' deletedMember' SMDRcv
+                unless wasDeleted $ deleteMemberItem gInfo'' $ RGEMemberDeleted groupMemberId (fromLocalProfile memberProfile)
+                toView $ CEvtDeletedMember user gInfo'' m deletedMember' withMessages msgSigned
                 pure deliveryScope
       where
         checkRole GroupMember {memberRole} a
@@ -3030,11 +3033,12 @@ processAgentMessageConn vr user@User {userId} corrId agentConnId agentMessage =
       deleteMemberConnection m
       -- member record is not deleted to allow creation of "member left" chat item
       gInfo' <- updateMemberRecordDeleted user gInfo m GSMemLeft
-      unless (muteEventInChannel gInfo' m) $ do
-        (gInfo'', m', scopeInfo) <- mkGroupChatScope gInfo' m
-        (ci, cInfo) <- saveRcvChatItemNoParse user (CDGroupRcv gInfo'' scopeInfo m') msg brokerTs (CIRcvGroupEvent RGEMemberLeft)
+      gInfo'' <- updatePublicGroupData user gInfo'
+      unless (muteEventInChannel gInfo'' m) $ do
+        (gInfo''', m', scopeInfo) <- mkGroupChatScope gInfo'' m
+        (ci, cInfo) <- saveRcvChatItemNoParse user (CDGroupRcv gInfo''' scopeInfo m') msg brokerTs (CIRcvGroupEvent RGEMemberLeft)
         groupMsgToView cInfo ci
-        toView $ CEvtLeftMember user gInfo'' m' {memberStatus = GSMemLeft} msgSigned
+        toView $ CEvtLeftMember user gInfo''' m' {memberStatus = GSMemLeft} msgSigned
       pure $ memberEventDeliveryScope m
 
     xGrpDel :: GroupInfo -> GroupMember -> RcvMessage -> UTCTime -> CM ()
@@ -3605,7 +3609,7 @@ runRelayRequestWorker a Worker {doWork} = do
               (FixedLinkData {linkEntityId, rootKey}, cData@(ContactLinkData _ UserContactData {owners})) <- getShortLinkConnReq NRMBackground user reqGroupLink
               liftIO (decodeLinkUserData cData) >>= \case
                 Nothing -> throwChatError $ CEException "getLinkDataCreateRelayLink: no group link data"
-                Just (GroupShortLinkData gp) -> do
+                Just GroupShortLinkData {groupProfile = gp} -> do
                   validateGroupProfile gp
                   gVar <- asks random
                   (_, memberPrivKey) <- liftIO $ atomically $ C.generateKeyPair gVar
@@ -3628,7 +3632,7 @@ runRelayRequestWorker a Worker {doWork} = do
                   groupLinkId <- GroupLinkId <$> drgRandomBytes 16
                   subMode <- chatReadVar subscriptionMode
                   subRole <- asks $ channelSubscriberRole . config
-                  let userData = encodeShortLinkData $ GroupShortLinkData groupProfile
+                  let userData = encodeShortLinkData $ GroupShortLinkData {groupProfile, publicGroupData = Nothing}
                       userLinkData = UserContactLinkData UserContactData {direct = True, owners = [], relays = [], userData}
                       crClientData = encodeJSON $ CRDataGroup groupLinkId
                   (connId, (ccLink, _serviceId)) <- withAgent $ \a' -> createConnection a' NRMBackground (aUserId user) True True SCMContact (Just userLinkData) (Just crClientData) CR.IKPQOff subMode
diff --git a/src/Simplex/Chat/Protocol.hs b/src/Simplex/Chat/Protocol.hs
index f1b5aceeec..6d785264a4 100644
--- a/src/Simplex/Chat/Protocol.hs
+++ b/src/Simplex/Chat/Protocol.hs
@@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ import qualified Data.ByteString.Char8 as B
 import Data.ByteString.Internal (c2w, w2c)
 import qualified Data.ByteString.Lazy.Char8 as LB
 import Data.Either (fromRight)
+import Data.Int (Int64)
 import qualified Data.List.NonEmpty as L
 import Data.Map.Strict (Map)
 import qualified Data.Map.Strict as M
@@ -1418,12 +1419,20 @@ data ContactShortLinkData = ContactShortLinkData
   }
   deriving (Show)
 
+data PublicGroupData = PublicGroupData
+  { publicMemberCount :: Int64
+  }
+  deriving (Eq, Show)
+
 data GroupShortLinkData = GroupShortLinkData
-  { groupProfile :: GroupProfile
+  { groupProfile :: GroupProfile,
+    publicGroupData :: Maybe PublicGroupData
   }
   deriving (Show)
 
 $(JQ.deriveJSON defaultJSON ''ContactShortLinkData)
 
+$(JQ.deriveJSON defaultJSON ''PublicGroupData)
+
 $(JQ.deriveJSON defaultJSON ''GroupShortLinkData)
 
diff --git a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Connections.hs b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Connections.hs
index a3d41afbde..348b5b8857 100644
--- a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Connections.hs
+++ b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Connections.hs
@@ -144,7 +144,7 @@ getConnectionEntity db vr user@User {userId, userContactId} agentConnId = do
                   g.conn_full_link_to_connect, g.conn_short_link_to_connect, g.conn_link_prepared_connection, g.conn_link_started_connection, g.welcome_shared_msg_id, g.request_shared_msg_id,
                   g.business_chat, g.business_member_id, g.customer_member_id,
                   g.use_relays, g.relay_own_status,
-                  g.ui_themes, g.summary_current_members_count, g.custom_data, g.chat_item_ttl, g.members_require_attention, g.via_group_link_uri,
+                  g.ui_themes, g.summary_current_members_count, g.public_member_count, g.custom_data, g.chat_item_ttl, g.members_require_attention, g.via_group_link_uri,
                   g.shared_group_id, g.root_priv_key, g.root_pub_key, g.member_priv_key,
                   -- GroupInfo {membership}
                   mu.group_member_id, mu.group_id, mu.index_in_group, mu.member_id, mu.peer_chat_min_version, mu.peer_chat_max_version, mu.member_role, mu.member_category,
diff --git a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Direct.hs b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Direct.hs
index 991e2eaac1..c81044f12d 100644
--- a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Direct.hs
+++ b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Direct.hs
@@ -181,7 +181,7 @@ createConnReqConnection db userId acId preparedEntity_ cReq cReqHash sLnk xConta
   case preparedEntity_ of
     -- For relay groups, setPreparedGroupLinkInfo_ is called via updatePreparedRelayedGroup before the relay loop
     Just (PCEGroup gInfo _) | not (useRelays' gInfo) ->
-      setPreparedGroupLinkInfo_ db gInfo cReq cReqHash customUserProfileId currentTs
+      setPreparedGroupLinkInfo_ db gInfo cReq cReqHash customUserProfileId Nothing currentTs
     _ -> pure ()
   pure
     Connection
diff --git a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Groups.hs b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Groups.hs
index 8d53bbcbf9..d40d294ee1 100644
--- a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Groups.hs
+++ b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Groups.hs
@@ -81,6 +81,7 @@ module Simplex.Chat.Store.Groups
     getGroupRelayById,
     getGroupRelayByGMId,
     getGroupRelays,
+    getConnectedGroupRelays,
     createRelayForOwner,
     getCreateRelayForMember,
     createRelayConnection,
@@ -101,6 +102,8 @@ module Simplex.Chat.Store.Groups
     createMemberConnection,
     createMemberConnectionAsync,
     updatePreparedRelayedGroup,
+    updatePublicMemberCount,
+    setPublicMemberCount,
     updateGroupMemberKeys,
     updateRelayGroupKeys,
     updateGroupMemberStatus,
@@ -332,8 +335,8 @@ setGroupLinkShortLink db gLnk@GroupLink {userContactLinkId, connLinkContact = CC
   pure gLnk {connLinkContact = CCLink connFullLink (Just shortLink), shortLinkDataSet = True, shortLinkLargeDataSet = BoolDef True}
 
 -- | creates completely new group with a single member - the current user
-createNewGroup :: DB.Connection -> VersionRangeChat -> User -> GroupProfile -> Maybe Profile -> Bool -> MemberId -> Maybe GroupKeys -> ExceptT StoreError IO GroupInfo
-createNewGroup db vr user@User {userId} groupProfile incognitoProfile useRelays memberId groupKeys = ExceptT $ do
+createNewGroup :: DB.Connection -> VersionRangeChat -> User -> GroupProfile -> Maybe Profile -> Bool -> MemberId -> Maybe GroupKeys -> Maybe Int64 -> ExceptT StoreError IO GroupInfo
+createNewGroup db vr user@User {userId} groupProfile incognitoProfile useRelays memberId groupKeys publicMemberCount_ = ExceptT $ do
   let GroupProfile {displayName, fullName, shortDescr, description, image, groupLink, groupPreferences, memberAdmission} = groupProfile
       fullGroupPreferences = mergeGroupPreferences groupPreferences
   currentTs <- getCurrentTime
@@ -364,11 +367,11 @@ createNewGroup db vr user@User {userId} groupProfile incognitoProfile useRelays
           INSERT INTO groups
             (use_relays, creating_in_progress, local_display_name, user_id, group_profile_id, enable_ntfs,
              created_at, updated_at, chat_ts, user_member_profile_sent_at,
-             shared_group_id, root_priv_key, root_pub_key, member_priv_key)
-          VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)
+             shared_group_id, root_priv_key, root_pub_key, member_priv_key, public_member_count)
+          VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)
         |]
         ( (BI useRelays, BI useRelays, ldn, userId, profileId, BI True, currentTs, currentTs, currentTs, currentTs)
-            :. (sharedGroupId_, rootPrivKey_, rootPubKey_, memberPrivKey_)
+            :. (sharedGroupId_, rootPrivKey_, rootPubKey_, memberPrivKey_, publicMemberCount_)
         )
       insertedRowId db
     let memberPubKey = C.publicKey . memberPrivKey <$> groupKeys
@@ -394,7 +397,7 @@ createNewGroup db vr user@User {userId} groupProfile incognitoProfile useRelays
           chatTags = [],
           chatItemTTL = Nothing,
           uiThemes = Nothing,
-          groupSummary = GroupSummary 1,
+          groupSummary = GroupSummary {currentMembers = 1, publicMemberCount = publicMemberCount_},
           customData = Nothing,
           membersRequireAttention = 0,
           viaGroupLinkUri = Nothing,
@@ -473,7 +476,7 @@ createGroupInvitation db vr user@User {userId} contact@Contact {contactId, activ
                   chatTags = [],
                   chatItemTTL = Nothing,
                   uiThemes = Nothing,
-                  groupSummary = GroupSummary 2,
+                  groupSummary = GroupSummary {currentMembers = 2, publicMemberCount = Nothing},
                   customData = Nothing,
                   membersRequireAttention = 0,
                   viaGroupLinkUri = Nothing,
@@ -593,11 +596,11 @@ deleteContactCardKeepConn db connId Contact {contactId, profile = LocalProfile {
   DB.execute db "DELETE FROM contacts WHERE contact_id = ?" (Only contactId)
   DB.execute db "DELETE FROM contact_profiles WHERE contact_profile_id = ?" (Only profileId)
 
-createPreparedGroup :: DB.Connection -> TVar ChaChaDRG -> VersionRangeChat -> User -> GroupProfile -> Bool -> CreatedLinkContact -> Maybe SharedMsgId -> Bool -> GroupMemberRole -> ExceptT StoreError IO (GroupInfo, Maybe GroupMember)
-createPreparedGroup db gVar vr user@User {userId, userContactId} groupProfile business connLinkToConnect welcomeSharedMsgId useRelays userMemberRole = do
+createPreparedGroup :: DB.Connection -> TVar ChaChaDRG -> VersionRangeChat -> User -> GroupProfile -> Bool -> CreatedLinkContact -> Maybe SharedMsgId -> Bool -> GroupMemberRole -> Maybe Int64 -> ExceptT StoreError IO (GroupInfo, Maybe GroupMember)
+createPreparedGroup db gVar vr user@User {userId, userContactId} groupProfile business connLinkToConnect welcomeSharedMsgId useRelays userMemberRole publicMemberCount_ = do
   currentTs <- liftIO getCurrentTime
   let prepared = Just (connLinkToConnect, welcomeSharedMsgId)
-  (groupId, groupLDN) <- createGroup_ db userId groupProfile prepared Nothing useRelays Nothing currentTs
+  (groupId, groupLDN) <- createGroup_ db userId groupProfile prepared Nothing useRelays Nothing publicMemberCount_ currentTs
   hostMemberId_ <-
     if useRelays
       then pure Nothing
@@ -806,7 +809,7 @@ createGroupViaLink'
   business
   membershipStatus = do
     currentTs <- liftIO getCurrentTime
-    (groupId, _groupLDN) <- createGroup_ db userId groupProfile Nothing business False Nothing currentTs
+    (groupId, _groupLDN) <- createGroup_ db userId groupProfile Nothing business False Nothing Nothing currentTs
     hostMemberId <- insertHost_ currentTs groupId
     liftIO $ DB.execute db "UPDATE connections SET conn_type = ?, group_member_id = ?, updated_at = ? WHERE connection_id = ?" (ConnMember, hostMemberId, currentTs, connId)
     -- using IBUnknown since host is created without contact
@@ -833,8 +836,8 @@ createGroupViaLink'
             )
           insertedRowId db
 
-createGroup_ :: DB.Connection -> UserId -> GroupProfile -> Maybe (CreatedLinkContact, Maybe SharedMsgId) -> Maybe BusinessChatInfo -> Bool -> Maybe RelayStatus -> UTCTime -> ExceptT StoreError IO (GroupId, Text)
-createGroup_ db userId groupProfile prepared business useRelays relayOwnStatus currentTs = ExceptT $ do
+createGroup_ :: DB.Connection -> UserId -> GroupProfile -> Maybe (CreatedLinkContact, Maybe SharedMsgId) -> Maybe BusinessChatInfo -> Bool -> Maybe RelayStatus -> Maybe Int64 -> UTCTime -> ExceptT StoreError IO (GroupId, Text)
+createGroup_ db userId groupProfile prepared business useRelays relayOwnStatus publicMemberCount_ currentTs = ExceptT $ do
   let GroupProfile {displayName, fullName, shortDescr, description, image, groupLink, groupPreferences, memberAdmission} = groupProfile
   withLocalDisplayName db userId displayName $ \localDisplayName -> runExceptT $ do
     liftIO $ do
@@ -855,10 +858,10 @@ createGroup_ db userId groupProfile prepared business useRelays relayOwnStatus c
           INSERT INTO groups
             (group_profile_id, local_display_name, user_id, enable_ntfs,
               created_at, updated_at, chat_ts, user_member_profile_sent_at, conn_full_link_to_connect, conn_short_link_to_connect, welcome_shared_msg_id,
-              business_chat, business_member_id, customer_member_id, use_relays, relay_own_status)
-          VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)
+              business_chat, business_member_id, customer_member_id, use_relays, relay_own_status, public_member_count)
+          VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)
         |]
-        ((profileId, localDisplayName, userId, BI True, currentTs, currentTs, currentTs, currentTs) :. toPreparedGroupRow prepared :. businessChatInfoRow business :. (BI useRelays, relayOwnStatus))
+        ((profileId, localDisplayName, userId, BI True, currentTs, currentTs, currentTs, currentTs) :. toPreparedGroupRow prepared :. businessChatInfoRow business :. (BI useRelays, relayOwnStatus, publicMemberCount_))
       groupId <- insertedRowId db
       pure (groupId, localDisplayName)
 
@@ -1297,6 +1300,20 @@ getGroupRelays db GroupInfo {groupId} =
       (groupRelayQuery <> " WHERE gr.group_id = ?")
       (Only groupId)
 
+getConnectedGroupRelays :: DB.Connection -> GroupInfo -> IO [GroupRelay]
+getConnectedGroupRelays db GroupInfo {groupId} =
+  map toGroupRelay
+    <$> DB.query
+      db
+      ( groupRelayQuery
+          <> [sql| JOIN group_members m ON m.group_member_id = gr.group_member_id
+                   WHERE gr.group_id = ?
+                     AND m.member_status = ?
+                     AND gr.relay_status IN (?,?)
+             |]
+      )
+      (groupId, GSMemConnected, RSAccepted, RSActive)
+
 groupRelayQuery :: Query
 groupRelayQuery =
   [sql|
@@ -1446,7 +1463,7 @@ createRelayRequestGroup db vr user@User {userId} GroupRelayInvitation {fromMembe
           groupPreferences = Nothing,
           memberAdmission = Nothing
         }
-  (groupId, _groupLDN) <- createGroup_ db userId placeholderProfile Nothing Nothing True (Just RSInvited) currentTs
+  (groupId, _groupLDN) <- createGroup_ db userId placeholderProfile Nothing Nothing True (Just RSInvited) Nothing currentTs
   -- Store relay request data for recovery
   liftIO $ setRelayRequestData_ groupId
   ownerMemberId <- insertOwner_ currentTs groupId
@@ -1708,15 +1725,40 @@ createMemberConnectionAsync db user@User {userId} groupMemberId (cmdId, agentCon
 -- which is used in single-connection flows.
 updatePreparedRelayedGroup ::
   DB.Connection -> VersionRangeChat -> User -> GroupInfo -> ConnReqContact -> ConnReqUriHash -> Maybe Profile ->
-  Maybe ByteString -> C.PublicKeyEd25519 -> C.PrivateKeyEd25519 ->
+  Maybe ByteString -> C.PublicKeyEd25519 -> C.PrivateKeyEd25519 -> Maybe Int64 ->
   ExceptT StoreError IO GroupInfo
-updatePreparedRelayedGroup db vr user@User {userId} gInfo cReq cReqHash incognitoProfile linkEntityId rootPubKey memberPrivKey = do
+updatePreparedRelayedGroup db vr user@User {userId} gInfo cReq cReqHash incognitoProfile linkEntityId rootPubKey memberPrivKey publicMemberCount_ = do
   currentTs <- liftIO getCurrentTime
   customUserProfileId <- liftIO $ mapM (createIncognitoProfile_ db userId currentTs) incognitoProfile
-  liftIO $ setPreparedGroupLinkInfo_ db gInfo cReq cReqHash customUserProfileId currentTs
+  liftIO $ setPreparedGroupLinkInfo_ db gInfo cReq cReqHash customUserProfileId publicMemberCount_ currentTs
   liftIO $ updateGroupMemberKeys db (groupId' gInfo) linkEntityId rootPubKey memberPrivKey (groupMemberId' $ membership gInfo)
   getGroupInfo db vr user (groupId' gInfo)
 
+updatePublicMemberCount :: DB.Connection -> VersionRangeChat -> User -> GroupInfo -> ExceptT StoreError IO GroupInfo
+updatePublicMemberCount db vr user GroupInfo {groupId} = do
+  liftIO $ do
+    totalCount <- fromMaybe 0 <$> maybeFirstRow fromOnly
+      (DB.query db "SELECT summary_current_members_count FROM groups WHERE group_id = ?" (Only groupId))
+    relayCount <- fromMaybe 0 <$> maybeFirstRow fromOnly
+      (DB.query
+        db
+        [sql|
+          SELECT COUNT(1) FROM group_members
+          WHERE group_id = ? AND member_role = ?
+            AND member_status IN (?,?,?,?,?,?,?)
+        |]
+        (groupId, GRRelay, GSMemIntroduced, GSMemIntroInvited, GSMemAccepted, GSMemAnnounced, GSMemConnected, GSMemComplete, GSMemCreator))
+    let publicCount = max 0 (totalCount - relayCount) :: Int64
+    currentTs <- getCurrentTime
+    DB.execute db "UPDATE groups SET public_member_count = ?, updated_at = ? WHERE group_id = ?" (publicCount, currentTs, groupId)
+  getGroupInfo db vr user groupId
+
+setPublicMemberCount :: DB.Connection -> VersionRangeChat -> User -> GroupInfo -> Int64 -> ExceptT StoreError IO GroupInfo
+setPublicMemberCount db vr user GroupInfo {groupId} publicCount = do
+  currentTs <- liftIO getCurrentTime
+  liftIO $ DB.execute db "UPDATE groups SET public_member_count = ?, updated_at = ? WHERE group_id = ?" (publicCount, currentTs, groupId)
+  getGroupInfo db vr user groupId
+
 updateGroupMemberKeys :: DB.Connection -> GroupId -> Maybe ByteString -> C.PublicKeyEd25519 -> C.PrivateKeyEd25519 -> GroupMemberId -> IO ()
 updateGroupMemberKeys db groupId linkEntityId rootPubKey memberPrivKey membershipGMId = do
   currentTs <- getCurrentTime
diff --git a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Postgres/Migrations/M20260222_chat_relays.hs b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Postgres/Migrations/M20260222_chat_relays.hs
index 87decab6e8..11e1270e75 100644
--- a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Postgres/Migrations/M20260222_chat_relays.hs
+++ b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Postgres/Migrations/M20260222_chat_relays.hs
@@ -42,7 +42,8 @@ ALTER TABLE groups
   ADD COLUMN shared_group_id BYTEA,
   ADD COLUMN root_priv_key BYTEA,
   ADD COLUMN root_pub_key BYTEA,
-  ADD COLUMN member_priv_key BYTEA;
+  ADD COLUMN member_priv_key BYTEA,
+  ADD COLUMN public_member_count BIGINT;
 
 ALTER TABLE group_profiles ADD COLUMN group_link BYTEA;
 
@@ -89,7 +90,8 @@ ALTER TABLE groups
   DROP COLUMN shared_group_id,
   DROP COLUMN root_priv_key,
   DROP COLUMN root_pub_key,
-  DROP COLUMN member_priv_key;
+  DROP COLUMN member_priv_key,
+  DROP COLUMN public_member_count;
 
 ALTER TABLE group_profiles DROP COLUMN group_link;
 
diff --git a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/SQLite/Migrations/M20260222_chat_relays.hs b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/SQLite/Migrations/M20260222_chat_relays.hs
index f5f799914f..f0f0e151dc 100644
--- a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/SQLite/Migrations/M20260222_chat_relays.hs
+++ b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/SQLite/Migrations/M20260222_chat_relays.hs
@@ -56,6 +56,7 @@ ALTER TABLE groups ADD COLUMN shared_group_id BLOB;
 ALTER TABLE groups ADD COLUMN root_priv_key BLOB;
 ALTER TABLE groups ADD COLUMN root_pub_key BLOB;
 ALTER TABLE groups ADD COLUMN member_priv_key BLOB;
+ALTER TABLE groups ADD COLUMN public_member_count INTEGER;
 
 ALTER TABLE group_profiles ADD COLUMN group_link BLOB;
 
@@ -103,6 +104,7 @@ ALTER TABLE groups DROP COLUMN shared_group_id;
 ALTER TABLE groups DROP COLUMN root_priv_key;
 ALTER TABLE groups DROP COLUMN root_pub_key;
 ALTER TABLE groups DROP COLUMN member_priv_key;
+ALTER TABLE groups DROP COLUMN public_member_count;
 
 ALTER TABLE group_profiles DROP COLUMN group_link;
 
diff --git a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/SQLite/Migrations/chat_query_plans.txt b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/SQLite/Migrations/chat_query_plans.txt
index ee339cce94..99c1b1899b 100644
--- a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/SQLite/Migrations/chat_query_plans.txt
+++ b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/SQLite/Migrations/chat_query_plans.txt
@@ -148,7 +148,7 @@ Query:
                   g.conn_full_link_to_connect, g.conn_short_link_to_connect, g.conn_link_prepared_connection, g.conn_link_started_connection, g.welcome_shared_msg_id, g.request_shared_msg_id,
                   g.business_chat, g.business_member_id, g.customer_member_id,
                   g.use_relays, g.relay_own_status,
-                  g.ui_themes, g.summary_current_members_count, g.custom_data, g.chat_item_ttl, g.members_require_attention, g.via_group_link_uri,
+                  g.ui_themes, g.summary_current_members_count, g.public_member_count, g.custom_data, g.chat_item_ttl, g.members_require_attention, g.via_group_link_uri,
                   g.shared_group_id, g.root_priv_key, g.root_pub_key, g.member_priv_key,
                   -- GroupInfo {membership}
                   mu.group_member_id, mu.group_id, mu.index_in_group, mu.member_id, mu.peer_chat_min_version, mu.peer_chat_max_version, mu.member_role, mu.member_category,
@@ -1215,8 +1215,8 @@ Query:
           INSERT INTO groups
             (group_profile_id, local_display_name, user_id, enable_ntfs,
               created_at, updated_at, chat_ts, user_member_profile_sent_at, conn_full_link_to_connect, conn_short_link_to_connect, welcome_shared_msg_id,
-              business_chat, business_member_id, customer_member_id, use_relays, relay_own_status)
-          VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)
+              business_chat, business_member_id, customer_member_id, use_relays, relay_own_status, public_member_count)
+          VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)
         
 Plan:
 
@@ -1224,8 +1224,8 @@ Query:
           INSERT INTO groups
             (use_relays, creating_in_progress, local_display_name, user_id, group_profile_id, enable_ntfs,
              created_at, updated_at, chat_ts, user_member_profile_sent_at,
-             shared_group_id, root_priv_key, root_pub_key, member_priv_key)
-          VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)
+             shared_group_id, root_priv_key, root_pub_key, member_priv_key, public_member_count)
+          VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)
         
 Plan:
 
@@ -1383,6 +1383,14 @@ SEARCH users USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)
 INDEX 2
 SEARCH users USING INDEX sqlite_autoindex_users_1 (contact_id=?)
 
+Query: 
+          SELECT COUNT(1) FROM group_members
+          WHERE group_id = ? AND member_role = ?
+            AND member_status IN (?,?,?,?,?,?,?)
+        
+Plan:
+SEARCH group_members USING INDEX idx_group_members_group_id_index_in_group (group_id=?)
+
 Query: 
           SELECT agent_conn_id FROM (
             SELECT
@@ -5127,7 +5135,7 @@ Query:
       g.conn_full_link_to_connect, g.conn_short_link_to_connect, g.conn_link_prepared_connection, g.conn_link_started_connection, g.welcome_shared_msg_id, g.request_shared_msg_id,
       g.business_chat, g.business_member_id, g.customer_member_id,
       g.use_relays, g.relay_own_status,
-      g.ui_themes, g.summary_current_members_count, g.custom_data, g.chat_item_ttl, g.members_require_attention, g.via_group_link_uri,
+      g.ui_themes, g.summary_current_members_count, g.public_member_count, g.custom_data, g.chat_item_ttl, g.members_require_attention, g.via_group_link_uri,
       g.shared_group_id, g.root_priv_key, g.root_pub_key, g.member_priv_key,
       -- GroupMember - membership
       mu.group_member_id, mu.group_id, mu.index_in_group, mu.member_id, mu.peer_chat_min_version, mu.peer_chat_max_version, mu.member_role, mu.member_category,
@@ -5163,7 +5171,7 @@ Query:
       g.conn_full_link_to_connect, g.conn_short_link_to_connect, g.conn_link_prepared_connection, g.conn_link_started_connection, g.welcome_shared_msg_id, g.request_shared_msg_id,
       g.business_chat, g.business_member_id, g.customer_member_id,
       g.use_relays, g.relay_own_status,
-      g.ui_themes, g.summary_current_members_count, g.custom_data, g.chat_item_ttl, g.members_require_attention, g.via_group_link_uri,
+      g.ui_themes, g.summary_current_members_count, g.public_member_count, g.custom_data, g.chat_item_ttl, g.members_require_attention, g.via_group_link_uri,
       g.shared_group_id, g.root_priv_key, g.root_pub_key, g.member_priv_key,
       -- GroupMember - membership
       mu.group_member_id, mu.group_id, mu.index_in_group, mu.member_id, mu.peer_chat_min_version, mu.peer_chat_max_version, mu.member_role, mu.member_category,
@@ -5192,7 +5200,7 @@ Query:
       g.conn_full_link_to_connect, g.conn_short_link_to_connect, g.conn_link_prepared_connection, g.conn_link_started_connection, g.welcome_shared_msg_id, g.request_shared_msg_id,
       g.business_chat, g.business_member_id, g.customer_member_id,
       g.use_relays, g.relay_own_status,
-      g.ui_themes, g.summary_current_members_count, g.custom_data, g.chat_item_ttl, g.members_require_attention, g.via_group_link_uri,
+      g.ui_themes, g.summary_current_members_count, g.public_member_count, g.custom_data, g.chat_item_ttl, g.members_require_attention, g.via_group_link_uri,
       g.shared_group_id, g.root_priv_key, g.root_pub_key, g.member_priv_key,
       -- GroupMember - membership
       mu.group_member_id, mu.group_id, mu.index_in_group, mu.member_id, mu.peer_chat_min_version, mu.peer_chat_max_version, mu.member_role, mu.member_category,
@@ -5513,6 +5521,22 @@ Plan:
 SEARCH i USING COVERING INDEX idx_chat_items_note_folder_has_link_created_at (user_id=? AND note_folder_id=?)
 SEARCH f USING INDEX idx_files_chat_item_id (chat_item_id=?)
 
+Query: 
+    SELECT gr.group_relay_id, gr.group_member_id,
+           cr.chat_relay_id, cr.address, cr.name, cr.domains, cr.preset, cr.tested, cr.enabled, cr.deleted,
+           gr.relay_status, gr.relay_link
+    FROM group_relays gr
+    JOIN chat_relays cr ON cr.chat_relay_id = gr.chat_relay_id
+   JOIN group_members m ON m.group_member_id = gr.group_member_id
+                   WHERE gr.group_id = ?
+                     AND m.member_status = ?
+                     AND gr.relay_status IN (?,?)
+             
+Plan:
+SEARCH gr USING INDEX idx_group_relays_group_id (group_id=?)
+SEARCH cr USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)
+SEARCH m USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)
+
 Query: 
     SELECT gr.group_relay_id, gr.group_member_id,
            cr.chat_relay_id, cr.address, cr.name, cr.domains, cr.preset, cr.tested, cr.enabled, cr.deleted,
@@ -6695,6 +6719,10 @@ Query: SELECT should_sync FROM connections_sync WHERE connections_sync_id = 1
 Plan:
 SEARCH connections_sync USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)
 
+Query: SELECT summary_current_members_count FROM groups WHERE group_id = ?
+Plan:
+SEARCH groups USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)
+
 Query: SELECT user_contact_link_id FROM contact_requests WHERE contact_request_id = ?
 Plan:
 SEARCH contact_requests USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)
@@ -6979,6 +7007,10 @@ Query: UPDATE groups SET members_require_attention=1 WHERE group_id=?
 Plan:
 SEARCH groups USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)
 
+Query: UPDATE groups SET public_member_count = ?, updated_at = ? WHERE group_id = ?
+Plan:
+SEARCH groups USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)
+
 Query: UPDATE groups SET relay_own_status = ?, updated_at = ? WHERE group_id = ?
 Plan:
 SEARCH groups USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)
@@ -7011,7 +7043,7 @@ Query: UPDATE groups SET user_member_profile_sent_at = ? WHERE user_id = ? AND g
 Plan:
 SEARCH groups USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)
 
-Query: UPDATE groups SET via_group_link_uri = ?, via_group_link_uri_hash = ?, conn_link_prepared_connection = ?, updated_at = ? WHERE group_id = ?
+Query: UPDATE groups SET via_group_link_uri = ?, via_group_link_uri_hash = ?, conn_link_prepared_connection = ?, public_member_count = ?, updated_at = ? WHERE group_id = ?
 Plan:
 SEARCH groups USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)
 
diff --git a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/SQLite/Migrations/chat_schema.sql b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/SQLite/Migrations/chat_schema.sql
index df675b3c05..ecdde196d4 100644
--- a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/SQLite/Migrations/chat_schema.sql
+++ b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/SQLite/Migrations/chat_schema.sql
@@ -171,7 +171,8 @@ CREATE TABLE groups(
   shared_group_id BLOB,
   root_priv_key BLOB,
   root_pub_key BLOB,
-  member_priv_key BLOB, -- received
+  member_priv_key BLOB,
+  public_member_count INTEGER, -- received
   FOREIGN KEY(user_id, local_display_name)
   REFERENCES display_names(user_id, local_display_name)
   ON DELETE CASCADE
diff --git a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Shared.hs b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Shared.hs
index bcfe78067b..0f25379204 100644
--- a/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Shared.hs
+++ b/src/Simplex/Chat/Store/Shared.hs
@@ -665,21 +665,21 @@ type BusinessChatInfoRow = (Maybe BusinessChatType, Maybe MemberId, Maybe Member
 
 type GroupKeysRow = (Maybe B64UrlByteString, Maybe C.PrivateKeyEd25519, Maybe C.PublicKeyEd25519, Maybe C.PrivateKeyEd25519)
 
-type GroupInfoRow = (Int64, GroupName, GroupName, Text, Maybe Text, Text, Maybe Text, Maybe ImageData, Maybe ShortLinkContact) :. (Maybe MsgFilter, Maybe BoolInt, BoolInt, Maybe GroupPreferences, Maybe GroupMemberAdmission) :. (UTCTime, UTCTime, Maybe UTCTime, Maybe UTCTime) :. PreparedGroupRow :. BusinessChatInfoRow :. (BoolInt, Maybe RelayStatus, Maybe UIThemeEntityOverrides, Int64, Maybe CustomData, Maybe Int64, Int, Maybe ConnReqContact) :. GroupKeysRow :. GroupMemberRow
+type GroupInfoRow = (Int64, GroupName, GroupName, Text, Maybe Text, Text, Maybe Text, Maybe ImageData, Maybe ShortLinkContact) :. (Maybe MsgFilter, Maybe BoolInt, BoolInt, Maybe GroupPreferences, Maybe GroupMemberAdmission) :. (UTCTime, UTCTime, Maybe UTCTime, Maybe UTCTime) :. PreparedGroupRow :. BusinessChatInfoRow :. (BoolInt, Maybe RelayStatus, Maybe UIThemeEntityOverrides, Int64, Maybe Int64, Maybe CustomData, Maybe Int64, Int, Maybe ConnReqContact) :. GroupKeysRow :. GroupMemberRow
 
 type GroupMemberRow = (GroupMemberId, GroupId, Int64, MemberId, VersionChat, VersionChat, GroupMemberRole, GroupMemberCategory, GroupMemberStatus, BoolInt, Maybe MemberRestrictionStatus) :. (Maybe Int64, Maybe GroupMemberId, ContactName, Maybe ContactId, ProfileId) :. ProfileRow :. (UTCTime, UTCTime) :. (Maybe UTCTime, Int64, Int64, Int64, Maybe UTCTime, Maybe C.PublicKeyEd25519, Maybe ShortLinkContact)
 
 type ProfileRow = (ProfileId, ContactName, Text, Maybe Text, Maybe ImageData, Maybe ConnLinkContact, Maybe ChatPeerType, LocalAlias, Maybe Preferences)
 
 toGroupInfo :: VersionRangeChat -> Int64 -> [ChatTagId] -> GroupInfoRow -> GroupInfo
-toGroupInfo vr userContactId chatTags ((groupId, localDisplayName, displayName, fullName, shortDescr, localAlias, description, image, groupLink) :. (enableNtfs_, sendRcpts, BI favorite, groupPreferences, memberAdmission) :. (createdAt, updatedAt, chatTs, userMemberProfileSentAt) :. preparedGroupRow :. businessRow :. (BI useRelays, relayOwnStatus, uiThemes, currentMembers, customData, chatItemTTL, membersRequireAttention, viaGroupLinkUri) :. groupKeysRow :. userMemberRow) =
+toGroupInfo vr userContactId chatTags ((groupId, localDisplayName, displayName, fullName, shortDescr, localAlias, description, image, groupLink) :. (enableNtfs_, sendRcpts, BI favorite, groupPreferences, memberAdmission) :. (createdAt, updatedAt, chatTs, userMemberProfileSentAt) :. preparedGroupRow :. businessRow :. (BI useRelays, relayOwnStatus, uiThemes, currentMembers, publicMemberCount, customData, chatItemTTL, membersRequireAttention, viaGroupLinkUri) :. groupKeysRow :. userMemberRow) =
   let membership = (toGroupMember userContactId userMemberRow) {memberChatVRange = vr}
       chatSettings = ChatSettings {enableNtfs = fromMaybe MFAll enableNtfs_, sendRcpts = unBI <$> sendRcpts, favorite}
       fullGroupPreferences = mergeGroupPreferences groupPreferences
       groupProfile = GroupProfile {displayName, fullName, shortDescr, description, image, groupPreferences, memberAdmission, groupLink}
       businessChat = toBusinessChatInfo businessRow
       preparedGroup = toPreparedGroup preparedGroupRow
-      groupSummary = GroupSummary {currentMembers}
+      groupSummary = GroupSummary {currentMembers, publicMemberCount}
       groupKeys = toGroupKeys groupKeysRow
    in GroupInfo {groupId, useRelays = BoolDef useRelays, relayOwnStatus, localDisplayName, groupProfile, localAlias, businessChat, fullGroupPreferences, membership, chatSettings, createdAt, updatedAt, chatTs, userMemberProfileSentAt, preparedGroup, chatTags, chatItemTTL, uiThemes, groupSummary, customData, membersRequireAttention, viaGroupLinkUri, groupKeys}
 
@@ -760,7 +760,7 @@ groupInfoQueryFields =
       g.conn_full_link_to_connect, g.conn_short_link_to_connect, g.conn_link_prepared_connection, g.conn_link_started_connection, g.welcome_shared_msg_id, g.request_shared_msg_id,
       g.business_chat, g.business_member_id, g.customer_member_id,
       g.use_relays, g.relay_own_status,
-      g.ui_themes, g.summary_current_members_count, g.custom_data, g.chat_item_ttl, g.members_require_attention, g.via_group_link_uri,
+      g.ui_themes, g.summary_current_members_count, g.public_member_count, g.custom_data, g.chat_item_ttl, g.members_require_attention, g.via_group_link_uri,
       g.shared_group_id, g.root_priv_key, g.root_pub_key, g.member_priv_key,
       -- GroupMember - membership
       mu.group_member_id, mu.group_id, mu.index_in_group, mu.member_id, mu.peer_chat_min_version, mu.peer_chat_max_version, mu.member_role, mu.member_category,
@@ -861,12 +861,12 @@ getGroupInfo db vr User {userId, userContactId} groupId = ExceptT $ do
       (groupInfoQuery <> " WHERE g.group_id = ? AND g.user_id = ? AND mu.contact_id = ?")
       (groupId, userId, userContactId)
 
-setPreparedGroupLinkInfo_ :: DB.Connection -> GroupInfo -> ConnReqContact -> ConnReqUriHash -> Maybe Int64 -> UTCTime -> IO ()
-setPreparedGroupLinkInfo_ db GroupInfo {groupId, membership} cReq cReqHash customUserProfileId currentTs = do
+setPreparedGroupLinkInfo_ :: DB.Connection -> GroupInfo -> ConnReqContact -> ConnReqUriHash -> Maybe Int64 -> Maybe Int64 -> UTCTime -> IO ()
+setPreparedGroupLinkInfo_ db GroupInfo {groupId, membership} cReq cReqHash customUserProfileId publicMemberCount_ currentTs = do
   DB.execute
     db
-    "UPDATE groups SET via_group_link_uri = ?, via_group_link_uri_hash = ?, conn_link_prepared_connection = ?, updated_at = ? WHERE group_id = ?"
-    (cReq, cReqHash, BI True, currentTs, groupId)
+    "UPDATE groups SET via_group_link_uri = ?, via_group_link_uri_hash = ?, conn_link_prepared_connection = ?, public_member_count = ?, updated_at = ? WHERE group_id = ?"
+    (cReq, cReqHash, BI True, publicMemberCount_, currentTs, groupId)
   when (isJust customUserProfileId) $
     DB.execute
       db
diff --git a/src/Simplex/Chat/Types.hs b/src/Simplex/Chat/Types.hs
index 5dfbdf8f09..32d1c726bf 100644
--- a/src/Simplex/Chat/Types.hs
+++ b/src/Simplex/Chat/Types.hs
@@ -532,7 +532,8 @@ groupName' :: GroupInfo -> GroupName
 groupName' GroupInfo {localDisplayName = g} = g
 
 data GroupSummary = GroupSummary
-  { currentMembers :: Int64
+  { currentMembers :: Int64,
+    publicMemberCount :: Maybe Int64
   }
   deriving (Eq, Show)
 
@@ -2036,7 +2037,7 @@ $(JQ.deriveToJSON defaultJSON ''GroupSummary)
 
 instance FromJSON GroupSummary where
   parseJSON = $(JQ.mkParseJSON defaultJSON ''GroupSummary)
-  omittedField = Just GroupSummary {currentMembers = 0}
+  omittedField = Just GroupSummary {currentMembers = 0, publicMemberCount = Nothing}
 
 $(JQ.deriveJSON (sumTypeJSON $ dropPrefix "GRK") ''GroupRootKey)
 
diff --git a/src/Simplex/Chat/View.hs b/src/Simplex/Chat/View.hs
index da698bf4e0..b94c8c5924 100644
--- a/src/Simplex/Chat/View.hs
+++ b/src/Simplex/Chat/View.hs
@@ -465,7 +465,9 @@ chatEventToView hu ChatConfig {logLevel, showReactions, showReceipts, testView}
   CEvtSubscriptionStatus srv status conns -> [plain $ subStatusStr status <> " " <> show (length conns) <> " connections on server " <> showSMPServer srv]
   CEvtReceivedGroupInvitation {user = u, groupInfo = g, contact = c, memberRole = r} -> ttyUser u $ viewReceivedGroupInvitation g c r
   CEvtUserJoinedGroup u g m -> ttyUser u $ viewUserJoinedGroup g m
-  CEvtGroupLinkRelaysUpdated u g groupLink relays -> ttyUser u $ viewGroupLinkRelaysUpdated g groupLink relays
+  CEvtGroupLinkDataUpdated u g groupLink relays relaysChanged
+    | relaysChanged -> ttyUser u $ viewGroupLinkRelaysUpdated g groupLink relays
+    | otherwise -> []
   CEvtJoinedGroupMember u g m -> ttyUser u $ viewJoinedGroupMember g m
   CEvtHostConnected p h -> [plain $ "connected to " <> viewHostEvent p h]
   CEvtHostDisconnected p h -> [plain $ "disconnected from " <> viewHostEvent p h]
@@ -1708,12 +1710,16 @@ viewContactInfo ct@Contact {contactId, profile = LocalProfile {localAlias, conta
     <> viewCustomData customData
 
 viewGroupInfo :: GroupInfo -> [StyledString]
-viewGroupInfo GroupInfo {groupId, uiThemes, customData, groupSummary = s} =
+viewGroupInfo gInfo@GroupInfo {groupId, uiThemes, customData, groupSummary = GroupSummary {currentMembers, publicMemberCount}} =
   [ "group ID: " <> sShow groupId,
-    "current members: " <> sShow (currentMembers s)
+    memberCountLine
   ]
     <> viewUITheme uiThemes
     <> viewCustomData customData
+  where
+    memberCountLine
+      | useRelays' gInfo, Just count <- publicMemberCount = "subscribers: " <> sShow count
+      | otherwise = "current members: " <> sShow currentMembers
 
 viewUITheme :: Maybe UIThemeEntityOverrides -> [StyledString]
 viewUITheme = maybe [] (\uiThemes -> ["UI themes: " <> viewJSON uiThemes])
diff --git a/tests/ChatTests/Groups.hs b/tests/ChatTests/Groups.hs
index a1674597d5..b07eb03e86 100644
--- a/tests/ChatTests/Groups.hs
+++ b/tests/ChatTests/Groups.hs
@@ -8421,6 +8421,16 @@ testChannels1RelayDeliver ps =
             eve <# "#team cath> > hi"
             eve <## "    + 👍"
 
+            -- owner's public member count is maintained automatically
+            alice ##> "/_info #1"
+            alice <## "group ID: 1"
+            alice <## "subscribers: 4"
+            -- subscriber refreshes count via short link
+            threadDelay 100000 -- wait for async short link data update
+            cath ##> "/_get group link data #1"
+            cath <## "group ID: 1"
+            cath <## "subscribers: 4"
+
 createChannel1Relay :: String -> TestCC -> TestCC -> TestCC -> TestCC -> TestCC -> IO ()
 createChannel1Relay gName owner relay cath dan eve = do
   (shortLink, fullLink) <- prepareChannel1Relay gName owner relay
@@ -8478,20 +8488,21 @@ prepareChannel2Relays gName owner relay1 relay2 = do
   owner <## "wait for selected relay(s) to join, then you can invite members via group link"
 
   concurrentlyN_
-    [ owner
-        <### [  -- one relay connects
-                ConsoleString ("#" <> gName <> ": group link relays updated, current relays:"),
-                StartsWith "  - relay id 1: ",
-                StartsWith "  - relay id 2: ",
-                "group link:",
-                Predicate (const True), -- consume group link line
-                -- second relay connects
-                ConsoleString ("#" <> gName <> ": group link relays updated, current relays:"),
-                "  - relay id 1: active",
-                "  - relay id 2: active",
-                "group link:",
-                Predicate (const True) -- consume group link line
-              ],
+    [ do
+        -- one relay connects
+        owner <## ("#" <> gName <> ": group link relays updated, current relays:")
+        owner
+          <### [ EndsWith ": active",
+                 EndsWith ": accepted"
+               ]
+        owner <## "group link:"
+        void $ getTermLine owner -- consume group link line
+        -- second relay connects
+        owner <## ("#" <> gName <> ": group link relays updated, current relays:")
+        owner <## "  - relay id 1: active"
+        owner <## "  - relay id 2: active"
+        owner <## "group link:"
+        void $ getTermLine owner, -- consume group link line
       relay1 <## ("#" <> gName <> ": you joined the group as relay"),
       relay2 <## ("#" <> gName <> ": you joined the group as relay")
     ]
@@ -8928,6 +8939,15 @@ testChannelRemoveMemberSigned ps =
                   cath <# "#team eve> hello from eve [>>]"
               ]
 
+            -- before removal — owner count is maintained synchronously
+            alice ##> "/_info #1"
+            alice <## "group ID: 1"
+            alice <## "subscribers: 4"
+            threadDelay 100000 -- wait for async short link data update
+            cath ##> "/_get group link data #1"
+            cath <## "group ID: 1"
+            cath <## "subscribers: 4"
+
             -- remove member (XGrpMemDel) - signed (other members can verify)
             threadDelay 1000000
             alice ##> "/rm #team eve"
@@ -8946,6 +8966,15 @@ testChannelRemoveMemberSigned ps =
             dan #$> ("/_get chat #1 count=1", chat, [(0, "removed eve (signed)")])
             eve #$> ("/_get chat #1 count=1", chat, [(0, "removed you (signed)")])
 
+            -- after first removal
+            alice ##> "/_info #1"
+            alice <## "group ID: 1"
+            alice <## "subscribers: 3"
+            threadDelay 100000 -- wait for async short link data update
+            cath ##> "/_get group link data #1"
+            cath <## "group ID: 1"
+            cath <## "subscribers: 3"
+
             -- remove silent member (other members don't know about member)
             threadDelay 1000000
             alice ##> "/rm #team dan"
@@ -8963,6 +8992,15 @@ testChannelRemoveMemberSigned ps =
             dan #$> ("/_get chat #1 count=1", chat, [(0, "removed you (signed)")])
             eve #$> ("/_get chat #1 count=1", chat, [(0, "removed you (signed)")]) -- no new chat item
 
+            -- after second removal
+            alice ##> "/_info #1"
+            alice <## "group ID: 1"
+            alice <## "subscribers: 2"
+            threadDelay 100000 -- wait for async short link data update
+            cath ##> "/_get group link data #1"
+            cath <## "group ID: 1"
+            cath <## "subscribers: 2"
+
 testChannelDeleteGroupSigned :: HasCallStack => TestParams -> IO ()
 testChannelDeleteGroupSigned ps =
   withNewTestChat ps "alice" aliceProfile $ \alice ->
@@ -9069,6 +9107,15 @@ testChannelSubscriberLeave ps =
                   eve <# "#team cath> hello from cath [>>]"
               ]
 
+            -- before any leave — owner count is maintained synchronously
+            alice ##> "/_info #1"
+            alice <## "group ID: 1"
+            alice <## "subscribers: 4"
+            threadDelay 100000 -- wait for async short link data update
+            eve ##> "/_get group link data #1"
+            eve <## "group ID: 1"
+            eve <## "subscribers: 4"
+
             -- known member leaves (XGrpLeave signed) - owner and relay see items
             threadDelay 1000000
             cath ##> "/leave #team"
@@ -9084,6 +9131,15 @@ testChannelSubscriberLeave ps =
             dan #$> ("/_get chat #1 count=1", chat, [(0, "hello from cath")]) -- no leave item
             eve #$> ("/_get chat #1 count=1", chat, [(0, "hello from cath")]) -- no leave item
 
+            -- after first leave
+            alice ##> "/_info #1"
+            alice <## "group ID: 1"
+            alice <## "subscribers: 3"
+            threadDelay 100000 -- wait for async short link data update
+            eve ##> "/_get group link data #1"
+            eve <## "group ID: 1"
+            eve <## "subscribers: 3"
+
             -- verify cath's member status is "left" on all clients
             checkMemberStatus alice "cath" (Just "left")
             checkMemberStatus bob "cath" (Just "left")
@@ -9104,6 +9160,15 @@ testChannelSubscriberLeave ps =
             dan #$> ("/_get chat #1 count=1", chat, [(1, "left (signed)")])
             eve #$> ("/_get chat #1 count=1", chat, [(0, "hello from cath")]) -- no new item
 
+            -- after second leave
+            alice ##> "/_info #1"
+            alice <## "group ID: 1"
+            alice <## "subscribers: 2"
+            threadDelay 100000 -- wait for async short link data update
+            eve ##> "/_get group link data #1"
+            eve <## "group ID: 1"
+            eve <## "subscribers: 2"
+
             -- verify dan's member status is "left" on nodes that know dan
             checkMemberStatus alice "dan" (Just "left")
             checkMemberStatus bob "dan" (Just "left")